<p>Hanna: are you able to say how you have so much sorority information?</p>
<p>Thank you for all your posts, which I have found extremely informative.</p>
<p>I think everyone makes good points and its very interesting to see the wide array of opinions and viewpoints regarding greek life. I think we should just agree to disagree and accept that people will always have negative and positive attitudes towards this subject. The only thing I would encourage is to not ruin the experience for a young girl who is thinking about rushing, let her make the decision on her own. Sororities (and fraternities) are secretive groups by nature and I cannot stress enough that you really can’t understand what goes on and how decisions are made unless you are a part of one. Everything else on the outside is just hearsay and it would be unfair to poison someone’s mind against something you may not know the truth about. Just let the girl make up her mind on her own and handle the experience the way she feels is right for her.</p>
<p>^That pretty much sums up 53 pages.</p>
<p>alh, it’s primarily from research in support of my advising business. This is a huge part of the college experience for a lot of Americans – it’s the most popular extracurricular in the country – so I want to know as much about it as I can. I spend time every day reading college newspapers, student blogs, and student organization sites. I am always grilling people I meet socially about their college experiences, especially if theirs was very different from mine. So when I have a student deciding between, say, Indiana and Ohio State, we can talk about the very different Greek culture at those schools and what that might mean for her.</p>
<p>I also became intrigued when I was in college studying social psychology and group identity. Sorority recruitment is probably the most transparent identity-selection process in the world (in that there are complex written rules, and all the decisions are measured), and it hasn’t been studied very much. It has a number of qualities in common with college admissions, which (obviously) I have a great interest in.</p>
<p>Hanna, thank you for responding. Maybe you can answer another question? Is it ever a concern of young women today, who already know they have political aspirations, whether a sorority membership might be difficult to defend to the general public at some future date?</p>
<p>I know at least one woman of my generation whose political career was much advanced in the early years by the networking aspect of her sorority membership. Then for a period of time she seemed to make a point of not having her name appear in the newsletter list of annual donors.</p>
<p>It’s OK to criticize the selection process as being elitist and biased, but it’s not OK to explain why some things factor into the decision. This is the real problem with any internet forum: People come in with a side and stick with it regardless of the counter arguments or the accuracy of the arguments supporting their side. I am sure that there have been many negative experiences with sororities (colleges, classes, charities, clubs, jobs, etc…) and I am sure that there have been many positive experiences in these same organizations. Unfortunately, for some posters here, the purpose of this topic seems to be to globally paint a varied group of organizations with a single negative brush. That’s unfortunate and I think it is mean-spirited at worst and over-zealous helicopter parenting at best. I’ve been reading CC topics for only a few months and this is by far the most narrow-minded set of posts I have seen on this site. I am sorry some of you had a bad experience, but repeating urban legends and attacking young people who enjoy and apparently get a benefit from these organizations is just as unkind as the examples of hurtful acts you have described. Remember, you are casting hundreds of thousands of young (and young at heart) woman in the same negative light. Look at the group of your 10 best friends (very small sample size) my guess is you enjoy and are with the top two or three much more than the other seven. Does that make you elitist or exclusionary to 70% of your friends? Again, sorry some of you have negative experiences or feelings, but please try to keep the criticisms civil.</p>
<p>alh,
I know you were not addressing me, but here is a national statistics fact sheet about sorority and fraternity members:</p>
<p>[The</a> University of Missouri - Kansas City | Greek Life - Be Better…Go Greek!](<a href=“http://web2.umkc.edu/stulife/greeklife/greek_grades.html]The”>http://web2.umkc.edu/stulife/greeklife/greek_grades.html)</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Bay, that sheet is riddled with errors. Just to point out a few: Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and Andrew Johnson never went to college; Eisenhower and U.S. Grant went to West Point, which does not have fraternities; Bill Clinton was in a service, not social fraternity; Obama was never in a fraternity; JFK and Harry Truman were not in college fraternities, only accepted honorary membership as adults.</p>
<p>You’ll find it on many, many Greek Life sites, but it just isn’t accurate.</p>
<p>Here’s an idea from someone who recently (reluctantly, I may add) went through the recruitment process at a school where Greek life is a big deal:</p>
<p>Just do it. Going into the rush process with an open mind is crucial - I’ve met many people through rush. I met girls in my rush group who I am now friends with; I met girls at sororities I didn’t end up pledging at that I am now friends with; I found a sorority where I feel a part of things. Listening to exclusively the perceived disadvantages of joining a sorority is only going to bias you against the system and maybe cause you to not go through rush. Even if you’re not sure if joining a sorority is for you, the rush process is a great social tool. </p>
<p>I love my new sisters. There are all types of girls in my sorority - of course there are certain sororities where most people fit a certain “type.” In my sorority, there are girls of every ethnic group, English majors and engineers, party girls and those who are a little more nerdy, those who want to go to the beach and those who want to go on an Alternative Spring Break trip.</p>
<p>There are advantages and disadvantages to joining any sort of group or social organization during your college years, but that doesn’t mean anyone should make up their minds about sororities before personally experiencing them. They’re certainly not for everyone, but listening to stories about rush from the 1970’s or reading statistics can’t make that decision for you.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Ok, sorry. Kind of amazing that universities would publish inaccurate information on their websites!</p>
<p>No apology necessary – we ought to be able to trust college web sites! The fact that this document still pops up on college sites is all the more surprising when you consider that the real statistics, if anyone cared to calculate them, would still be very flattering to fraternities. A majority of 20th century presidents went Greek in college, for instance. That would still make the point that being in a fraternity doesn’t have to hold you back in life!</p>
<p>After reading all these posts, I finally feel ready to chime in. I came to this thread with an open mind. While I was never part of the Greek system (I was working my way through school and did not have the money or even more importantly the time, to devote to a sorority), I had always viewed them in a positive light. </p>
<p>I saw that sororities were a good way to form a community, particularly on the campus of a large, impersonal state U. I saw lifelong friendships develop amongst sorority sisters. </p>
<p>But now, after reading this thread, I am more troubled, particularly with the process of rush itself. The emphasis on “cute” and the right brand of clothing are bothersome. The rich, confident, socially adept rushee is very likely to have a successful experience. But what about the shy, less confident girl, who buys her clothes at Targhey? Which girl is more likely to make a mistake and say the wrong thing during rush in an attempt to fit in? Which girl would benefit more from the potential guidance and community of a sorority? Which girl runs a greater risk of being devastated if she is rejected?</p>
<p>Cardinal Fang -
I was pleased to see that in one (or more) of your previous posts you actually mentioned RESEARCH. (!) Unfortunately, it seems that few here are actually interested in checking out the scholarly research. It’s all about anecdotes… (“none of this happened to my daughter, so it can’t be true!”) Ack. (Bangs head against wall.)</p>
<p>I started poking around on the Web a couple of months back, looking for research on sororities and fraternities. Unfortunately, I wasn’t organized enough to save what I found out back then. Hubby poked around a bit too. IIRC (with my not-so-great memory 
), I think you’re right that the research about sexual assault and sorority members and fraternity members may not be as robust as the research on the other areas I discussed - it would be great to find a good review article on the topic. (may check out Robbins’ book from the library again to see what research she cites.) I spent a fair amount of time on the web last night re: sororities, but didn’t have hours and hours before I posted.</p>
<p>A little levity?</p>
<p>[End</a> Of Days! White Sorority Wins Step-Off | BlackStar69](<a href=“http://blackstar69.com/?p=3658]End”>http://blackstar69.com/?p=3658)</p>
<p>“But now, after reading this thread, I am more troubled, particularly with the process of rush itself.”</p>
<p>This is exactly what I am talking about and its so disheartening. I know some people will always have negative views of greek life but please don’t poison someone against being open-minded about the process because of naive claims heard on the outside. 2girls4me I am very sorry that you have gotten that impression and I hope you realize that every chapter at every school is different and don’t let a few negative attitudes turn you off to the whole greek system.</p>
<p>Reviving this thread because I stumbled upon a study that uncovered a disadvantage to sorority membership:</p>
<p>[Only</a> the beautiful need apply: Study flags damaging effect of joining a sorority on body image and eating behaviors](<a href=“http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100302112012.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+(ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News)]Only”>Only the beautiful need apply: Study flags damaging effect of joining a sorority on body image and eating behaviors | ScienceDaily)</p>
<p>OK, so I am a new joiner and missed most of this. I was in a sorority as an OOS student at a state flagship. I had a great time, but it was not without it’s ups and downs and now I have graduated, I have a new perspective. Here are my thoughts and apologies for the length, but once I started writing, I couldn’t stop!</p>
<p>Some things for Potential New Members to consider:-</p>
<p>1) Know your campus!
Every campus is different and each Greek system is a function of that culture to a greater or lesser extent. Some greek systems are very chilled and laid back, have minimal influence on campus and are very integrated into other facets of campus life. At the other extreme, some greek systems dominate the social scene, student government, home coming and other student activities. Some systems attract a more homogenous type of student, others are more varied. Percentages of greek affiliated students can give some idea of the prevalence and influence of a greek system, but can be misleading. Large state schools may have only 10-30% greek which theoretically means that there are 70-90% students non affiliated, however in reality, the Greeks can dominate other student activities and the social scene to the extent that students believe that you must be greek to be involved in these activities. Research your campus culture and that of the greek system you are thinking of joining. There are lots of comments on here about greek life in the south which are an example of distinct regional and campus cultures having a direct influence on the colleges’ greek systems.
2) Know yourself!
Some questions to ask yourself:
Do mainly I like being part of a group or do I prefer to spend more time alone/with one or two others? You will spend quite a lot of time on official sorority business in group(s) of other girls, and one of the benefits of joining a sorority is that there is always someone around to talk to, get coffee with, watch TV with, walk to class with… some people love this idea, others baulk at it. I know there were days when I loved the security that walking to class with my sisters gave me… and other days when I deliberately left early to walk by myself to enjoy the alone time. This was very very true when I lived in the house.
Do I enjoy having a very full schedule with lots of commitments or do I prefer having lots of my own time? Sorority membership does take up a lot of time and whilst only some events are mandatory, you will get more from your membership the more you participate, and therefore, the more time you give to the group. I remember a younger sister saying that she didn’t feel connected to the sorority or her pledge class that much and I asked her how much time she spent with her sisters… she admitted it was not as much as some others, which meant that when she was there, there were often jokes she had missed out on, bonds that were growing without her. No one was outwardly mean to her about this, it’s just that relationships develop whether you are there or not… I suggested she help me with my committee role to get more involved, which she did, and she ended up having a great (if busy!) time as she got to know more people.
What other commitments am I planning to have in college outside of the sorority? Sports clubs, music groups, worship, community work? How involved is your major? This will determine the amount of time you can spend with the sorority and consequently may affect the depth of the relationships you develop with the other girls. It will also depend on the sorority you have joined. Some make involvement in other campus groups mandatory for all members, which mean all the sisters will have friends and connections outside the sorority, whereas others will look more favourably on girls who will spend more time on the sorority.
Do I enjoy being associated with a group? As well as being an XYZ at college, I was also one of the ‘soccer girls’, both of which came with distinct stereotypes/reputations which were perhaps not 100% incorrect, but were certainly gross over exaggerations. How will you cope with having a ‘tag’ on you? This applies not only to your actual sorority, but also to being greek. I have blonde hair and was a sorority girl. I had a rather expensive purse. You can imagine some of the comments I got from people! I also played soccer, studied political science and economics, loved alternative music, lived in my converse, had a part time job and sometimes wore a nose stud. YMMV!
How do I cope with having lots of girls around? I ask this because with girls there is often ‘drama’ in a way that guys rarely have. Are you able to deal with periods of this whether it involves you directly or is just ‘going on’? Obviously, the extent of this will be part of the types of girls in the sorority you join, but there will be arguments, fallings out, tears, cold shouldering etc regardless of the group. And it’s not just sororities – I saw a much worse case, bordering on bullying, in my soccer team at college.
Of course, how you manage this will make a big difference. Some people preferred to stay way out of any drama and just let it resolve itself. Others liked to get involved in a non partial way to act as arbitrators. I can’t say it was always pleasant but I learnt a lot of life lessons on how to deal with people and difficult situations. I also learnt a lot about women and ultimately myself. Not to say you have to join a sorority to do this, of course.
The other thing with groups and girls is of course peer pressure. No one in a group likes a dissenter unfortunately. Some are more laid back and will let individuals do what they like to a greater extent, whereas some groups can be much more cookie cutter. By group I mean not just the sorority as a whole, but groups and cliques within them. There was one pledge class when I was an officer that seemed very close, but with this closeness came a dislike of anyone doing something different to the group as a whole, which was something us older girls had to talk to people about before it got out of hand. My friend’s sister at another sorority at another campus I will talk about pledge classes later…
3) Sororities are the girls in them
Whether you will enjoy your time in your sorority is ultimately down to whether you get on with and like your sisters. It is not to do with mixers, homecoming partnerships, the house, colours or reputation.
During recruitment (and before if you have deferred recruitment or if you attend summer school or spring/summer recruitment events) talk to the girls, watch them and think about whether you will fit in with them. What are they like? Will you want to spend time with them?
Are there any similarities? I may get flamed for this, but ultimately, we are drawn to people who share some similarities to ourselves. This is true for both the PNM deciding which sororities she is interested, as well as active sisters deciding which girls they may want to join their sorority. This goes back to my points about ‘Know Yourself’ and be as honest as you can about yourself… this applies to which groups you may like as well as whether you want to join in the first place… I know several girls who went through recruitment only to decide that the whole sorority thing was not for them at all and that we were all crazy! Fair enough!
I think there is one (perhaps brutal) comment on the excellent greekchat site that says something along the lines of:
“If the group you have set your heart on are tall blonde members of the cheerleading and dance groups, studying communications and English, and most are from ABC wealthy suburb, but your major is physics and French, you dislike sports and you have to work a part time job to help pay for your dues, then the chances are slim that you and those girls will have enough in common for you to be a sister”
Brutal and over simplified, but honest.
4) Housing
Aha. You know, one of my best friends went through recruitment with me, took one look at the triples and quads that existed in most of the houses, and decided ‘no way’!
Some campuses do not have houses, the sororities meet in classrooms or perhaps they have a chapter room designated to them. Others have suites or sections of dorms. Others of course, have incredible houses… What does your campus have and how do you feel about it? Do the sororities on your campus have ‘live in’ requirements where you will need to live in the house for maybe a whole year? Even if you don’t have a house, does the sorority arrange it so that groups of sisters get apartments together or blocks of a dorm together? How will you feel about living, eating, sleeping, studying and working with these girls, as well as participating in other sorority events? I loved living in the house but that’s just me and there were definite times when I had to get out on my bicycle and go for a ride to ‘de-compress’… others hated it with a passion and found being in the middle of all things sorority very overwhelming.
Living in the house will also mean that these girls will see you with no makeup on, in your PJs or sweats, when you can’t be bothered to present a happy face, when you are crying, when you are happy, when you are sad. There is nowhere to hide in the house. Think about this during recruitment. Which group can you imagine being that relaxed with?
Remember that the gorgeous big houses are EXPENSIVE to maintain and that a campus/group that has one of these will charge greater dues to pay for its upkeep.</p>
<p>5) Money
Sororities can be very expensive, depending on housing and other factors. Please make sure you investigate this before committing to a group. Know how you are going to pay. I had a part time job to help, my grandmother helped, but quite a lot of girls in my house had their bills sent straight to mom and dad.
Most sororities offer a payment plan/instalments. Use this if required.
Most offer scholarships – apply for them and use them!
Your college panhellenic should have info on their website about dues, often showing what is included or not. Beware the outwardly ‘cheaper’ sorority that then requires adhoc payments for events, t shirts etc. Some of the more ‘pricey’ ones work out cheaper because everything is included.
Agree up front with whoever is paying for your college education how you will pay for the dues: summer job, allowance, mom and dad, whatever. </p>
<p>Money will also be part of the campus culture. Again think about how comfortable you will be with prevailing attitudes to money and don’t over extend yourself to ‘keep up’ whether you are in a sorority or not. I know one story of a girl who stole from her suitemates in order to afford expensive clothes like them (not in a sorority, this campus doesn’t have them). They knew she didn’t have that kind of money (and were not fussed at all about it, they were friends and liked her!) and were worried about where the outfits etc were coming from. One day they confronted her and she broke down and admitted it – she is now going to court.</p>
<p>6) Recruitment
What recruitment is like and whether you enjoy it is all to do with your campus culture and your personality. On more competitive campuses (mine!) there will be a lot of hype and stress and drama = and a LOT of preparation. At other schools it is all a lot more laid back.
Recommendations – are these required on your campus? If the answer is yes, GET THEM!!! Not having a rec is a VERY easy way for groups to cut girls in the first rounds. Sounds harsh but if your campus has 1200 girls going through, something has to give and this is easy! See greekchat site for extensive advice on this
Pre-recruitment events – if your campus holds these (Alabama and Texas spring to mind for example) then GO TO THEM esp if you are OOS. Again, the schools that hold them, hold them for a reason: recruitment is competitive and stressful and involves large numbers of girls. Pre-events gives both sides a chance to meet each other more informally, learn about the process, learn about sorority life and decide if it’s something you want to do BEFORE getting to the pressure cooker of recruitment.
Grades- every college panhellenic has a minimum grade requirement, for example a 2.5. In addition, each sorority will have its OWN minimum GPA. If you do not meet this then expect to be cut, especially on a large campus with lots of girls going through – not meeting minimum GPA cut offs is an easy cut.
Reputation and deferred/delayed rush – please make sure your behaviour is, erm, clean! This is very true if you are attending your local state school with lots of people from your high school, if you attend any pre-rush or summer events, and especially if your school has delayed or deferred recruitment. Don’t think for a second that sorority members are not interested or are not paying attention to how girls behave in the run up to recruitment. Everyone likes to have fun and maybe even a couple of drinks, but DON’T be that girl who throws herself at (frat/soccer/football/any) boys, gets really drunk, pukes, bad mouths other people, etc. I think that this applies whether you want to join a sorority or not!!
Conversely, in the run up to recruitment, especially in a deferred school, you will see and hear a LOT of rumour/hearsay/gossip etc. This is one of the reasons why some people dislike deferred recruitment because often a girl’s mind is made up before recruitment even starts and she doesn’t give every group a chance, even if those groups might be a good fit for her. Please try NOT to listen to rumour, but to give every group a chance.
Resume – sororities want girls who are joiners and have demonstrated an active participation in community groups, sports, high school activities etc. You are probably looking at your ECs for college anyways, but remember that being involved with these kinds of things will help with your recruitment too.
If you don’t really like these kinds of activities or ‘joining in’ think long and hard about whether you will enjoy the sorority experience, which does require a lot of this type of thing for the house, the school and the local community.
If your school has deferred recruitment or if you are rushing as an upperclassman then getting involved on campus is almost non negotiable! Not only will it demonstrate your commitment to these kinds of activities and service to school/community/religious group, but you will also get to meet lots of sorority women from different groups. This allows them to get to know you outside of recruitment week, but also allows you to see the girls naturally rather than listening to hearsay. I remember several instances of hearing that the girls from ABC were nasty/shallow/easy/rich/Jewish (***, but seriously people say this stuff!)/athletic and THEN ACTUALLY MEETING THEM and realising that most of it was total nonsense!
Reflection
By this I mean take time each day of recruitment (and even before) to think about what you want out of your sorority experience (if you indeed decide you want one). Think about your campus culture and greek culture. Think about YOUR personality and where you see yourself fitting.
I remember one group that I loved. Their style was glamorous, they were loud, they were fun, they were sweethearts. I pref’d them (see below). However much I tried though, I KNEW that I was not like that, no matter how much I wanted to be. This is actually a very hard thing to do, especially at 18/19, but taking time BY YOURSELF (no BFF, no roommate, no mom, and esp no boyfriend- not to be rude, but men understand even less about recruitment than other women!) to think about what YOU want, where YOU fit in and what kind of experience YOU want is crucial, esp in the pressurised, high-drama environment of rush.
Clothes etc
A big deal is made about clothes. Here are some pointers:
Most schools will give you advice on the dress code for each round. Stick to it or go one notch up on the smart-scale esp at more competitive recruitments (ex, if it says shorts, wear a skirt)
You do not need to spend a fortune on a new outfit for each round. There are lots of stores that will sell things that are required for a decent price. Or borrow! I borrowed my pref dress from my roommate who wasn’t rushing.
Make sure you are showered, you have on a bit of makeup, your nails are clean and filed or painted if you want, you have on deodorant (our rush was in winter but I sweat SO MUCH due to nerves!). Think of this as similar to a job interview. You want to look groomed and presentable and you are dressing for girls not guys so no low cut tops, short skirts etc
The greek chat site has extensive advice on clothing.
Remember what your campus culture is like however. Chances are that if there is no guidance from panhellenic (the governing group of sororities) either in recruitment orientation or ‘meet the Greeks’ or on the internet, then rush outfits are no big deal. At some schools you can pitch up in jeans, Uggs and a hoodie (just don’t do this in Alabama, I mean, you would pass out from the heat if anything else!).
Re the Cornell Pi Phis. This is a list for the ACTIVE sisters to wear during rush. We had rules also which were fairly similar, but maybe not so strict on the ‘fashion’ elements! We all borrowed items from each other rather than buying new things. We all wanted to look good for the rushes and to represent our character through our outfits.
What I would say, is that if you baulk at the idea of being told or advised what to wear, if you don’t really care about grooming too much, then I do think you will find sorority membership hard. This is not to say that all sororities and their members are perfectly groomed all the time, but there will a lot of occasions where dressing up and good grooming are required (e.g. certain chapter meetings where we wear Badge Attire (smart outfit with your pin), Letter Days where the whole chapter wears letters to class and consequently must look groomed, Recruitment, where certain outfits are required for the active sisters e.g. Cornell Pi Phi). If you are really going to resist these requests then think about whether the demands a sorority may place on you mean it’s the right kind of group for you to join
Numbers and Cuts
So there is a LOT of chat about this on this thread!
As far as I know, there in only ONE school (Tufts) where all those who register and go through recruitment are guaranteed a bid.
At most schools, as a general rule of thumb, if you stay in the process until Preference Round (the last round before bid day) you will get placed. You may not get your first choice, but you will get placed somewhere.
Statistics from Auburn in Alabama said that for the girls who did not make it to preference, c80% DROPPED OUT of their own accord because they had not been invited back to their favourites. Most cuts from the sororities’ side were due to grades. A very small number were actually cut from all sororities who had met the grade requirements. Auburn is considered VERY competitive.
So, how to maximise your chances of A bid (note A bid, not a bid to your first choice)
- Recommendations if required
- Grades
- Resume: activities, clubs, job, etc
- Try to get to know the sisters beforehand if possible
- Attire and grooming
- Conversation (see below)
- Stay in the process until after preference. DO NOT DROP OUT BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THE HOUSES YOU GOT BACK!!! Give them a chance. Go to all the parties you are invited to, even if you are not sure about them. You do NOT have to sign a preference card (which means you will accept any bid you are given) if you really don’t want to at the end of the recruitment.
- At preference, look at the other PNMS in the room with you. They are likely to be your pledge class. Don’t focus so much on the seniors as they will leave soon.</p>
<p>Go to greekchat and read some of the Recruitment Stories. There are a LOT there were girls go in LOVING a particular group, then change their minds completely half way through recruitment and the house they were ‘meh’ about on Day 1 is the house they end up pledging and loving.</p>
<p>If you are not sure, but are in two minds, and ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ON A COMPETITIVE CAMPUS, accept your bid, go through the New Member Period and work hard at getting to know your pledge class and other sisters. If by Initiation you are still not sure, then you can drop out and be eligible for recruitment the following academic year.</p>
<p>Re-rushing and informal
Some campuses are laid back and groups with do informal recruitment at other times of the year. And/or groups will take a considerable number of upperclassmen. If this is the case, and you are unsure about freshman formal recruitment, waiting a year, or registering for informal, might be the way forward for you.
If you are in a competitive recruitment, I strongly advise following my points above. Informal recruitment is rare on competitive campuses because all the groups take the full number of girls they can during formal. In addition, most groups prefer freshmen as they will be members all 4 years. Some campuses have an Upper Classman Quota but please note that this is usually around 4-6 per house, so your chances greatly diminish the longer you wait.
IF YOU DIDN’T GET YOUR UBER POPULAR, PRETTY, TOP TIER HOUSE IN FRESHMAN FORMAL RECRUITMENT, THEN THE CHANCES OF YOU DOING SO IN INFORMAL RECRUITMENT OR BY RUSHING AS A SOPHOMORE ARE EVEN LESS. This is because these groups are full so don’t need to do informal, and also they tend to prefer freshmen. Unless you are BFF with half the house, if you don’t get them the first time round and dropped out of recruitment when the groups of fun, involved, cute girls who loved you invited you back, then YOU ARE VERY UNLIKELY TO EVER GET A BID FROM THEM!!! (Not from the cute, nice girls who liked you either!)</p>
<p>7) Conversation
Go to greek chat. There a LOT of advice on conversational skills and tips on overcoming shyness there. Use the search function.
I will be honest and say that formal recruitment DOES favour the confident, outgoing types and that those who are naturally quiet can get overlooked. I am naturally quiet, but I MADE myself talk to the girls during rush. I rehearsed questions and remembered my favourite anecdotes. I wore granny’s beads every day so I had something to talk about if a girl noticed. </p>
<p>8) Greek chat is your Bible – read ALL the information and use the search function to find answers to specific questions.
9) Greek chat is your Bible
10) Greek chat is your Bible!!</p>
<p>What a great and helpful post. Thank you for taking the time to write it.</p>
<p>Soccergirl- That was a great post! Thanks.</p>
<p>SoccerGirl - that was great and very accurate. Thank you for taking the time to post it.</p>