Division 1 Atheletes

<p>princeton recruited 3 HS distance guys that all run between 4 and 4:10 mile and sub 9 2-mile.
for and 800, my friend got recruited with a 1:52, but anything under 1:55 is good enough to be noticed by D1 schools at least.</p>

<p>^for an 800, i think a 2:00 * might * suffice for some schools (it really depends on what school you're looking at). I don't really know about Princeton's recruiting (other than they brought in Donn Cabral) but I saw some results and most of their runners aren't terribly impressive. They had a couple of guys running in the high 4:20's range for the mile and that is definitely attainable for the op if he trains hard since he still has a few years left.</p>

<p>Of HYP, I only know of one guy being recruited from CA (the #1 state for HS running), and his times were 2:04 (800), 4:29 (1600), 9:48 (3200).</p>

<p>Forget trying to get into Stanford on running. They've recruited two guys under 9 for 3200, and a girl (Laurynne Chetelat) who's done 9:52 for 3200. Ryan Hall graduated from there, and he's done sub 60 for half marathon.</p>

<p>Of the UC's, Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSB are pretty tough to get recruited by.</p>

<p>University of Washington is getting Christine Babcock (4:33 for 1600), Oklahoma State is getting German Fernandez (if you don't know who this guy is, then I question your knowledge of running).</p>

<p>Cornell, UPenn, and Dartmouth haven't really recruited in CA.</p>

<p>4:30s is good to get into CIF I think. If you get faster than 4:20 you can go to state. (in California) Just this year in track, German Fernandez broke the record!!!!!!!!!! and ran a 4:00: in the mile, or 1600m. Two hours later he ran an 8:34 whatever in his 3200m and broke the national record!!!!!!!!!!!1omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! h4x0r l33t sk115 h311z y3s.</p>

<p>^^Oklahoma State is also getting Colby Lowe, one of top ~5 runners in the nation. I know Stanford is getting Chris Derrick but who's the other sub 9 guy? Ben Johnson? And Babcock recently ran a 4:16 1500m. I would say California is probably the best state for running, but imo, I don't think Fernandez is better than Chris Derrick. Yea, I know he ran that sick double, but I think a healthy Derrick could beat Fernandez. Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait a while to see them go against each other....</p>

<p>anybody going to be watching Nike Outdoor Nationals on saturday for the 2 mile? it looks like its going to be an epic race...</p>

<p>I wonder what the times are for MIT. I am looking at Princeton/MIT as my two reaches/goals so high 4:20s is a goal, thanks guys.</p>

<p>I'm guessing MIT is Division 3 but have no idea. What are some other Div 2/3 top schools?</p>

<p>Never mind then, Stanford is getting 3 sub 9 guys (the other two are Riley Sullivan and Chris Schwartz).</p>

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I would say California is probably the best state for running, but imo, I don't think Fernandez is better than Chris Derrick. Yea, I know he ran that sick double, but I think a healthy Derrick could beat Fernandez.

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<p>No doubt about CA, but I think Fernandez could beat Derrick. He completely crushed the state meet record in XC and track and was 25th at the international XC championships. But 13:55 for 5k is amazing. We will have to see.</p>

<p>^But when you talk about those two times (the 13:55 by Derrick and the 4:00/9:34 by Fernandez), consider when they were run. If I am not mistaken, Derrick ran that in late April at Arcadia, while Fernandez ran his double in early June. A 13:55 for a 5k that early in the season demonstrated that Derrick was in awesome shape. Given the month and a half until NON, I feel Derrick would win the deuce if he were healthy. Still, German has run some amazing times and I think he has a shot at the 2-Mile record (it is an incredible year for hs running). Stupid mono though, so we'll have to wait and see. With that said, I think Fernandez wins at NON with Puskedra coming in second, followed by Finnerty and then Lowe.</p>

<p>OP, this thread on the MIT board may it seem as though athletes get very little pull there: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/507367-athletic-recruiting-mit.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/507367-athletic-recruiting-mit.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>But still, some pull is better than none. Let me see if I can find some times for you.</p>

<p>True, but German had the CA 2008 record for 3200 in March (8:45ish?) Also, I believe Illinois holds its state meet earlier than CA, so that factors into Derrick's time at Arcadia.</p>

<p>WUTEVA GERMAN JUST RAN AN 8:34 FULL 2 MILES!!</p>

<p>NATIONAL RECORD!!! GO GERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>AND even Derrick said he probably couldn't have run a 8;34 all alone (German's state performance.. German;'s 8:34 2 mile is like an 8:30-31 3200)</p>

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AND even Derrick said he probably couldn't have run a 8;34 all alone (German's state performance.. German;'s 8:34 2 mile is like an 8:30-31 3200)

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<p>As others have mentioned on that thread, he could have been being modest. Derrick is a classy guy, and do you really think he would have said "Yea, I would have pwned that noob if i was healthy"? But still, German is amazing, and props to him for breaking that record. That is * extremely * impressive, as it cements his status as one of the greatest of all time, I just believe that Derrick is better. Are you from California? Because if you are, then I will stop making the case for Derrick because you will never get it lol. Colby Lowe was also really impressive and I was sort of disappointed by Finnerty's performance (I was expecting a lot after his 4:01).</p>

<p>bump for zing to respond.</p>

<p>German's run was for 3200 m, so it's about 8:37 2 mile.</p>

<p>EDIT: Nvm, I thought you were talking about the state meet. He is now the national prep record holder in 8:34.</p>

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<p>Chris Schwartz will be a senior this Fall. The other sub-9 guy is Kevin Havel.</p>

<p>^ He might as well be going to college. His times are crazy.</p>

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Originally posted on ncaasports.com
800 meters
1 Jacob Hernandez JR Texas 1:45.31
2 Andrew Wheating SO Oregon 1:45.32
3 Duane Solomon SR USC 1:45.71
4 Elkana Kosgei SR LSU 1:47.34
5 Elias Koech SR UTEP 1:47.85
6 Tyler Mulder JR UNI 1:48.11
7 Austin Abbott SR Washington 1:48.46
8 Yarrick Kincaid SR Tennessee 1:50.25</p>

<p>1500 meters
1 Leonel Manzano SR Texas 3:41.25
2 Dorian Ulrey SO UNI 3:42.56
3 Jack Bolas SO Wisconsin 3:42.57
4 Craig Miller SO Wisconsin 3:42.67
5 Jeff See JR Ohio State 3:43.14
6 Garrett Heath JR Stanford 3:43.15
7 Darren Brown SR Texas 3:43.25
8 Evan Jager FR Wisconsin 3:43.26
9 Andrew Acosta SO Oregon 3:43.95
10 David Torrence SR California 3:43.97
11 Kurt Benninger SR Notre Dame 3:44.95
12 Andrew Bumbalough JR Georgetown 3:44.96
13 Andrew Jesien JR Virginia 3:45.30
14 Mark Davidson FR Tulsa 3:46.04
15 Matt Debole SR Georgetown 3:46.25

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<p>These are the finals for the ncaas</p>

<p>Why not make a list of all the schools you like,write their coaches,tell them what you're doing and hope to do? Lots of outstanding D111 schools have outstanding academics and athletics.Look at the Patriot League,Davidson,Washington and Lee,Haverford,Chicago,etc.You can improve greatly in a couple years if you avoid injury and train smart.</p>