<p>My GPA was a 4.39 when i applied overall, but my UF GPA is 4.47. Also a legacy, field commander of the marching band, church leadership, volunteer at hospital, # 18/700, 1310/1850 sat, state officer of FASG, german club president, went on foreign exchange, nhs, beta club, taken 11 ap courses, ap scholar with distinction. Passed all my ap exam's except for one. In state. I also attend the #1 UF feeder school outside Alachua county according to my GC</p>
<p>But i am incredibly nervous about getting in. So far i've been flat out denied by UVA and UNC</p>
<p>I agree and think you will get in…typically you are in if you are in the top 5% of your class and especially if you are in the Top 20 of your class…fabulous # of AP classes (they don’t care if you passes or not). You are looking good to this Gator mom of 2.</p>
<p>Nfrank55, what exactly is yield protection? I’m assuming it has to do with the number of accepted students who actually enroll at UF? Do you have any information on how this affects UF admission? Thanks for any info or stats that you can give me.</p>
<p>Yield protection is when a college or university denies admission to a qualified student because they think the student is using the school as a safety or back-up choice and the student is unlikely to attend if admitted.</p>
<p>Thanks, Danielle2400. I just can’t understand how a university would think they know what a student is planning to do. I’m sure many extremely qualified students who could get into prestigious ivy league schools might choose instead to attend UF for financial reasons.</p>
<p>Danielle…I realize it is often rumored semi-selective privates practice “yield protection”…or the so-called “Tufts syndrome”…but I seriously doubt that it would be legal for any state-supported school to do that for the very reason fsutimes2 mentions.</p>
<p>As to it being legal, the UF adcoms have broad discretion to do what they want in admission decisions so long as the student meets the minimum GPA and SAT/ACT score requirements. Personally, I do not think yield protection is a pervasive issue at UF. At schools like Tufts and Washington University in Saint Louis, yield protection is a major issue and it used to prop up the admission yield figure because a large number of applicants to those schools are also Ivy applicants. In great part it is about trying to tilt the “playing field” to achieve a high admission yield to maintain or increase the school’s rating in the annual U.S. News & World Report college ranking.</p>
<p>Yes, the UF admission staff does have broad discretionary authority, as they should. However, the mission of a public-supported institution is very different from that of a private, as a primary objective of a state school is to provide quality education at an affordable cost to the citizens of the state. Yield-protection is a direct attack on that core principle.</p>
<p>If my son had been rejected based upon an “assumption” that he “really didn’t want to go” because “he could get in and we could afford an elite-private”, you can bet I would have filed suit against UF. My damage claim would be the cost-differential of forcing us to take the high-cost option. Further, upon disposing the admission staff to determine whether they, in fact, practice “yield protection”, I would seek class-action status where the damages would be absolutely staggering if I was to prevail. </p>
<p>So, because Yield-Protection is inconsistent with a public University’s core mission, and because the potential legal damages would be devastating to the university, I simply do not believe the stories about public schools having this practice. Show me hard data to the contrary, anecdotes don’t cut it.</p>
<p>Look at what I said rogracer. Yield protection is not a pervasive problem at UF. Where it may creep in is on OOS admissions where those students usually have Ivy Leauge type stats and would be paying out-of-state tuition rates and have applied to the Ivys and other top 20 schools… As to suing UF or any state school on an admissions decision for yield protection or anything other than documentable racial, ethnic or other suspect class discrimination you can forget it. All state universities are protected from such suits by “soverign immunity” That law prohibits claims against the state government, agency or other part of state operations for what are known as “planning level” decisions. Only for violations of federally protected rights could you file and maintain a lawsuit. Suits against colleges and universities are DOA unless based on a sustainable claim of discrimination .</p>
<p>Fair points Danielle, and I think you are correct that the administration does not have the same obligations to OOS residents as they do to the citizens of Florida. With regard to sovereign immunity, the suit would have to present an argument as to why that does not apply, and a breach of fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers of the state may meet the bar. Plenty of attorneys would be willing to make this and other arguments because the stakes are enormous. Regardless, by the time this was settled, depositions would be long over and the truth would be made public.</p>
<p>If, In fact, UF was practicing Yield Protection , whether legal or not, the political fall-out would be substantial as the administration would have to explain why the state’s flagship university was denying admission to the state’s “best and brightest” students.</p>
<p>In my opinion, cries of “yield protection” are without substance, and could likely be explained by clear inspection of the student’s applications. Further, UF is a fairly selective university and simple statistical distributions will always produce cases where UF is denying admission to students that are accepted to universities that, on average, are “more selective”. That is to be expected, and does not imply Yield Protection……on this much at least, I think you will agree.</p>
<p>Thank you for your well written response Rogracer. In a recent United States Supreme Court decision involving admission decisions at the University of Michigan Law School, the criteria that admissions committees may consider to adjust for affirmastive action concerns
were recently narrowed. The Supreme Court did make it clear however that absent efforts to consider factors related to affirmative action which cannot be tied specific quotas or other"bright line" metrics, public universities are free to admit students applying standards or methodologies that they feel best serve the school as a whole. I do agree that at UF yield protection is a non-issue for in state applicants especially inlight of about 33,000 students competing for 6,300 freshman slots for 2012. How and in what way UF uses yield management for OOS is unknown. It may be illustrative to look at how Washington University of Saint Louis usess yield protection. They either deny a very large number of competive Ivy level students or place a huge number on the wait list. I think the wait list at WUSL was in the many thousands of students.</p>