Do I have a shot

<p>SAT I: 1460 760V, 700M
SAT II: writing, math ic, and US history (taking in november and december. hoping for 700+ on all three)</p>

<p>AP Bio: 4
AP US History: 4</p>

<p>ECs: model UN (most honorable delegate at Georgia Tech conference 9,11,12), science club (9,10,11,12),NHS (11,12), and Beta (11,12). I am an active memeber in each of these clubs.</p>

<p>Senior Year Classes:
Pyschology
AP Gov
Art
AP lit
Spanish 4
AP Calc
AP Econ
AP Environmental Science</p>

<p>Summer Activities: Cybertech 2K2 (summer program at KSU that involved coomputers), Howard Hughes light and life bio. program at georgia tech, and volunteer for a senate campaign</p>

<p>I plan on majoring in political science and economics. Do i have a shot at Brown?</p>

<p>please, respond to this.</p>

<p>it is so capricious. waitlisted with 1600, 2 800 SAT II's, 4.0+ GPA, strong EC's.</p>

<p>WOW. can i ask, what were your ec's? i want to know where i stand with much less, academically.</p>

<p>I got into Brown with a 1460 sat, 780 world and Us history, and a 730 Math IC. </p>

<p>What probably got me in was some community service I did in high school. However, these are neither prerequisites or qualifications for admission. Some people have perfect SAT 1 and two scores, others have 800 combined SAT 1 scores...it's all about what you did with what you had. </p>

<p>The admissions officers are pretty cool (most of them are under 30).</p>

<p>Email me if you have any other questions. I'm taking time off from Brown right now and may not return.</p>

<p>Why are you taking time off and thinking of leaving?</p>

<p>I guess it is several factors, why I left.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>I came to college to get the precursors for a wife, a good career, and critical thinking skills. I dated about a dozen girls, but didn't get one I could consider a girl-friend. I do have some interesting stories; one wouldn't go out with me anymore because she found out I voted for Bush (that still makes me laugh). Two girls (and probably a third) had OCD. The other girls were very self-focused. That doesn't mean they had bad personalities, but most people there carry some of my character traits (introverted, intuitive, analytical). I usually like carefree, extroverted girls...there aren't that many at Brown (even though I did meet some). The job search also bothered me. Nepotism does play quite a role in a job search. Yet, I didn't like how Brown doesn't offer business courses or have any job-specific training (even though that it may not be the best idea to get a job specific major). </p></li>
<li><p>I come from a moderately conservative family. My high school, and high school football team was quite homophobic. I had never met an African American until I was twelve. Although I come from a mixed ethnic background, I dress, act, and completely consider myself as American as Apple Pie. When I came to Brown, they addressed me not as a minority (political reasons)...but rather as a "Third World Transition Student". As you can tell, some radical left-wing thinkers didn't mix well with me. What can I say? I wasn't raised to believe in such things as race-based affirmative action, gay marriage, or that the CIA sold crack to pay for the Nicaragua-Contra scandal. </p></li>
<li><p>Southern California (my home) has spoiled me. The weather is almost always sunny, the food comes fresh from everywhere, the people are more open (even though it's sometimes superficial and a fake nice), and the girls are a lot prettier (I've never seen a better looking concentration of people than in Orange County...never).</p></li>
<li><p>I was fairly popular in high school, did well academically, never had a problem getting a girlfriend, was well liked. If anyone were to go from that area to a place 3000 miles away, with no friends or a girlfriend...and met people who acted and thought completely differently, I think they would have gotten stressed out.</p></li>
<li><p>Some family sickness changes my financial situation; $45,000 a year is pretty expensive when other considerations come into play.</p></li>
<li><p>Selective factors (meeting people in dorms to bond well with), certain people I met along the way, etc. If I had gone at another time, or possibly go back, then things could be entirely different. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>Although I had a rough time, I think I learned what I liked (as well as what I didn't like!!!). I don't think I could ever be an atheist, socialist, liberal, or possibly even a democrat (maybe). I know I'll need to get married and have kids, I know I'll need a challenging career, and know that I don't like New England weather, food, or culture. But, I can always try again later...or never.</p>

<p>Any more questions?</p>

<p>Dude, you want to get married straight out of college? Good luck. Something like 90% of people who get married before they're 21 get divorced. If it happens it happens, but going to college to get married just isn't the done thing anymore in this country, and I bet the idea you are looking for a wife would scare the sh** out of a lot of girls. </p>

<p>As a liberal, who's lived most of her life in conservative country, you CAN still learn to relate to people, and find enough people like you to get by. Where would you go if you leave Brown? Vanderbilt?</p>

<p>your description sounds like your more of a vandy, then a brownie</p>

<p>you were looking for a wife...?? and..</p>

<p>"I had never met an African American until I was twelve."
wow. simply wow.</p>

<p>Yeah, sounds like Brown wasn't the place for you. Sorry it didn't work out. I'm not sure why a girl refusing to go out with you because you voted for Bush makes you laugh... I don't think I could date somebody seriously who voted for Bush. Be good friends with them, absolutely, but politics are very important to me, and anybody who voted for Bush would have such a fundamentally different set of values from mine that dating them probably wouldn't work out.</p>

<p>I'm surprised you didn't find many "carefree, extroverted" girls... seems like most girls here are fairly extroverted, and some of them are quite carefree. I think the whole looking-to-get-married thing might've thrown some girls off, but I'm sure you'll find somebody who works for you.</p>

<p>Good luck wherever you end up and with whatever you end up doing.</p>

<p>...i doubt i would go out with you if you voted for Bush...</p>

<p>youd have to be smokin...if i was into guys and all.</p>

<p>wow... and i thought i was liberal</p>

<p>I mean I am very liberal and would never vote for Bush, but I can't imagine breaking up with someone or not going on a date just because I found out they voted for Bush.... I may tease them for voting or supporiting him, but I do agree that its laughable for her reason to breakup with you</p>

<p>... maybe its because I grew up in a very conservative suburb?</p>

<p>jklunder, I totally understand. Many liberals I've met (not all by any stretch of the imagination) seem to think that if you don't hold all their "tolerant" and "open-minded" ideas, you're stupid. While that in itself isn't very open-minded at all, consistancy has never been their strong suit. Hope you find a good place where you can fit in better. I'll be praying for your family situation man, good luck.</p>

<p>jklunder, i've got a friend at brown who could totally argue most of what you said about brown. ( maybe i should ask her to post?) </p>

<p>anyways, she a junior there now, & she's a Southern Californian Republican, & also grew up in a rich community. I guess the only real difference b/t the two of u is that she's hispanic & ur white. she's told me about how even though she has to put up w. alot of liberal attecks, it's nothing compared to living in california. besides, even though she is republican,she's pretty moderate, & doesnt tell ppl who she voted for. </p>

<p>plus, she's the only reason why i'm still applying to brown. i've heard so many horror stories from other conservatives , but since most of them are from ppl like you , who never met a black person until 12 (where do u live??? i live in one of the most expensive gated community's in LA , & i kno black ppl! i am a black person!), so i take it with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>jklunder- how strong was your passion towards community service? How did you show it?</p>