<p>Two Clintons make up for two dozen Bushes (and a Cheney) in terms of international love. Now you just need someone to offset Rummy.</p>
<p>The Clintons went to Georgetown and Wellesley (and daughter to Stanford), no? And Bush Jr to Harvard for his graduate diploma, if we are counting those. In any event, Yale, Brown, UPenn, etc are in the same boat internationally. Harvard and MIT have instant name recognition, Princeton has some name recognition in my experience, the rest, much less.</p>
<p>I think McNamara was the most infamous Ivy alumnus outside the US, and Kissinger the most notorious. Bush Jr may have surpassed them.</p>
<p>PosterX, I forgot to mention that usually Britons knew Yale. When I ask other europeans about Yale they say its popular but not on the level of Princeton and Harvard. Thats my take. </p>
<p>Also, I think I may still have a shot at JHU for grad school. It surprised me that you guys mentioned that it has international recognition. But is this recognition soley for medicine? While Brown is too hard to pass up the thought of JHU also crossed my mind.</p>
<p>The Clintons went to Yale for Law School. And even though we're talking undergrad, only Bill gets you credit. Let's see a few other on the "notable alumni" list, aside from the ones you've mentioned:
John Kerry
Joe Lieberman
Samuel Alito
John Ashcroft</p>
<p>Real stand-up guys. I'll give you this: Yale's had some great actors/comedians (aside from David Alan Grier)</p>
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<p>posterx, that's your opinion of course. You clearly have very little knowledge about Latin America. Most high school students are very familiar with the institution. Doctoral students are also trained there by the thousands, especially in medicine. It has to do with a lot of "becas" ( scholarship ) that the french gov offers as aid to the South American countries.
Most of latin americans are very anti- american. The fact that they look with some disdain to american universities should be of no surprise to anyone.</p>
<p>Texas -- A cool place to do your undergrad does not mean anything in terms of graduate programs. At the graduate level, it's all about the reputation of the department or even the strength of one particular research area in the department.</p>
<p>Though the National Research Rankings are only done every ten years and will be updated this winter, they are useful for people considering grad school. Here is economics: hhttp://<a href="http://www.stat.tamu.edu/%7Ejnewton/nrc_rankings/area36.html">www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/area36.html</a></p>
<p>There are certainly other departments at Brown that rank higher. (Applied Math, for example). I know nothing about public policy.</p>
<p>A good start is the website Phd.org. It will let you plug in your various criteria and give you a list of universities to start looking at. I don't think "cool" is one of the variables, but it does include things like location and size of program that might be elements of why Brown attracts you.</p>
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<p>JHU has a better public policy program and economics program than Brown. I was attracted to Brown because of location and atmosphere. These are things I find "cool". Having the school be recognized internationally is just a plus considering I want to take it abroad.</p>
<p>The significance in the job market of the recognition of which undergraduate school one attended is very overrated. At the end, the training acquired, the knowledge, the communication skills and other personal qualities are going to be what really makes a difference in how successful someone becomes.</p>
<p>I have met a Yale graduate that has been a reporter for some local TV station for years, a Princeton graduate who can not keep a job for more than two years, and a Hopkins graduate with some other major issues as well . </p>
<p>And less not forget that the man whom until recently was the richest man in the planet, was a college drop out. His success did not come from his incomplete Harvard education, but from his smarts, ambition and everything else.</p>
<p>You need to go to a college where you are going to be happy, learn while you enjoy yourself and become a better individual. If you are unhappy, all the "international recognition" that you "think" a name may bring you, will likely be irrelevant in your future.</p>
<p>you guys act as if that isnt obvious. Ofcourse in the end what matter more is how the person performs on the job and what he has attained outside of education. International recognition is just a plus and more for vanity purposes. It would just be nice to attend an internationall recognized school. Since I dldnt get into Yale, Princeton, or Harvard I have a choice of Brown or JHU.
Out of these two which has better international recognition?</p>
<p>Can I ask how you could have been accepted already, and yet you haven't decided on which school you will be attending? I know Brown kicked off the academic year this week, so I am just curious as to how this is still a question for you.</p>
<p>I have not even graduated yet. I just visited the faculty and talked to a lot of people and have a better at getting into Brown and JHU. That's all.</p>
<p>Why is Brown's international recognition a factor to you? Or was it just a random question you were thinking about?</p>
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<p>pretty much.</p>
<p>Alright...time to move on into another topic...</p>
<p>we had a good run. but what is wrong with asking about Browns international recognition?</p>
<p>Nothing, again...time to move on.</p>
<p>Harvard has the Kennedys</p>
<p>Yale the Bushes</p>
<p>Princeton Einstein</p>
<p>They all had / have international impact</p>
<p>Well, Brown had John F Kennedy Jr. He did not want to go to Harvard.</p>
<p>did he not also fail the bar exam twice before passing? anyways, bad example. he chose Brown only to prove he didnt want special treatment because he was a former president's son. He had subpar grades and was still admitted into Harvard.</p>
<p>Brown also has Rory Kennedy. So Brown can likewise say it has the Kennedys. Going back to the original intent of this post, Brown has housed some of the most famous Americans in the past century; two Kennedy's, several famous actors, Ted Turner, etc. It has a reputation among the northeast elite the rivals HYP for undergrad. Why is it relatively unknown overseas?</p>