<p>I just got my transcript from my counselor today and noticed that it was loitered with A-'s, especially in English and PE. Total, my GPA is 3.87 (four B's), which were located in freshie/sophomore year. My school sees a A+=A=A-, but will Princeton be the same? How will this affect me for princeton and other the top colleges? Because my school never really penalized you if you had an A-, I usually stopped trying after a 90 and expended my time on extracurriculars and call of duty,. I have average test scores (Sat = 2310) and I am a URM (mexican).</p>
<p>I should also mention my class rank is 2-3% at the top, but the problem still remains</p>
<p>Since when in the hell is 2310 average. Even by ivy standards, that score is in the upper percentile, although it’s not everything.</p>
<p>As an URM, you should be ok, especially with an A- in PE. Make sure you do well in your SAT IIs and keep your rank up. 2310 is not considered average.</p>
<p>2310 + URM, welcome to Princeton. Really impressive.</p>
<p>^ Things are not so simple.</p>
<p>^ It is when you’re a URM with a 2310. You know how many of Mexicans there are with a 2300+? Maybe like 20 total applying to college each year. Princeton, Harvard, and Yale fight for them.</p>
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<p>Like you, I don’t know because there are no released statistics on the matter. I would bet that it’s far greater than twenty, however.</p>
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<p>Actually, HYP have been known to reject such students. I’m not saying, though, that URM’s at or near the top of their classes and with 2300+ on the SAT are in a bad position for Princeton, just that to suggest that they are ensured a spot is misleading because it is incorrect.</p>
<p>Silverturtle - did you pick a school yet?</p>
<p>^ Yes. Just minutes ago, in fact. I’ll be going to Brown (unless I get off the Princeton waitlist and decide to go there). Thanks for asking.</p>
<p>Congratulations. What made you choose Brown over Columbia and Chicago (is it hometown)?</p>
<p>BlindAmbition - sorry to hijack your thread.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1114752-official-princeton-university-class-2015-rd-results-thread.html?[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1114752-official-princeton-university-class-2015-rd-results-thread.html?</a></p>
<p>Go through this thread and look for profiles of people with your background to see what they have done to get into Princeton.</p>
<p>Yes, I have already looked through those threads, dozens of times. I also know being Mexican gives me a boost, albeit a minimum one (silverturtle, who’s test scores was above average, did not get into HYP even though he was a URM) However, I was simply asking whether or not an A- would be seen the same to an A and A+ at Princeton’s admission office, because my school and dozens of other school in my western state sure do.</p>
<p>Silverturtle did nt declare he was an URM. If he did so, he would be in at HYPS with his stats.</p>
<p>Your GPA and class rank are what make the difference for you apart from your ECs. It is irrelevant to a school what your school considers A+ vs A vs A- but if they have a different GPA assignment, then it is being reflected in your GPA no matter how you want to justify it. If you are in top 2-3%, that is where your position is reflected (i.e., you can get a few of A-s and still be up there which means A- is normal in your school).</p>
<p>If you look at the thread you linked me to, you will see silverturtle’s first post saying “3/4 White non-Hispanic; 1/4 Hispanic”.</p>
<p>Hispanic is not URM dude. Being Mexican is a huge help, being Argentinian is not.</p>
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<p>You are a moron. (we’re just saying the first thing that comes to mind without any supportive details, right?)</p>
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<p>Unlike you, I’m not a stupid pre-frosh. Your judgement vs mine.
<a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-percentile-ranks-by-gender-ethnicity-2010.pdf[/url]”>Higher Education Professionals | College Board;
<p>If a Mexican scores a 650 on all three sections, he/she likely is in the top 1% (scoring in the top 4% for all three sections –> top 1-2% in terms of composite score) with a composite score of about 1950. It’s the same (or even better) percentile-wise as an Asian who scores 750 on CR/W and 800 Math. So if a 1950 Mexican = 2300 Asian, what do you think it would be like when you see a Mexican applicant with a 2300? </p>
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<p>You know nothing about college admissions. If it’s newsworthy that they rejected one, then how high do you think the admissions rate is for URMs with 2300+ scores? I’d say 90%. Basically, you’re in unless you have some serious flaws. If you disagree, that’s fine. But you probably don’t know s***.</p>
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<p>Sorry to disappoint, but you have a very small chance of getting into Princeton through the waitlist this year. I like how you changed your location to “–> RI/NJ” though - as if you had a choice between the two.</p>
<p>@RandomBetch: What’s the difference…? Both have the ethnicity of hispanic, but in a form such as the common app which has no other place for race, both a mexican and argentinian would have to put caucasian… because there is no mestizo catagory that can be written in which is actually the race of most in central america, including myself. We can’t put asian or black (most can’t)… and if we put native american (which is ostensibly only half of our race), a tribal number is required…</p>
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<p>Brown’s open curriculum and grading policy combine to give its students unusually high degrees of freedom to explore academically. The students seem especially happy as well, for a variety of reasons.</p>
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<p>I selected Hispanic and then White, with specification as to the racial/ethnic breakdown.</p>
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<p>Schools with subjective and circumstance-sensitive admissions like Princeton do not typically employ generally applicable policies for the consideration of special grading situations. Even if there is a standard in the admissions office for putting A’s, A+'s , and A-'s under the umbrella of “A,” there is of course the unavoidable psychological impact of seeing the A-'s. With that said, however, given your GPA and class rank, your grades should not be a source of concern. </p>
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<p>For your own sake, in the future it is most sensible to make such a point in a way that is consistent with the forum’s rules. My support came later in the post; my terse dismissal was meant merely to contextualize the remainder of what I wrote in an unambiguous way.</p>
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<p>For obvious reasons, this is not a valid argument. </p>
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<p>2300 is an impressive score, independent of race.</p>
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<p>I don’t know which applicant’s rejection, supposedly of note, that you are referring to; please clarify. As for my speculation on the admit rate for URM’s with 2300 or higher on the SAT to Princeton, something just south of 90% sounds right. It’s nice to know that you have qualified your absolute, false position.</p>
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<p>Facts, such as this one, of which I am already aware do not disappoint me. </p>
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<p>Back slashes do not imply the presence of choices, merely that of alternative possibilities.</p>
<p>Although I don’t think I’ve conveyed that I do, I feel compelled to explicate that I bear no hostile feelings toward you, randombetch. I hope you’re enjoying yourself at Princeton.</p>