Does UCSD have a chance of becoming academic equals to UCSD?

<p>What are your thoughts?</p>

<p>5, 10, 15 years?</p>

<p>Everyone knows that medical schools and bio programs bring in the most money. UCSD kills all the UCs in that category-and I go to Cal. Will this enable UCSD to raise more funds than UCLA? Also, UCSD has shown the most growth and promise for continual upward trends. All this and more, makes me believe that UCSD has the most potential to be the next great public institution. </p>

<p>Furthermore, UCLA is losing ground to their private rival, USC, in the USNWR rankings. They have already made it to the top 25: Best</a> Colleges Preview: Top 25 National Universities - US News and World Report</p>

<p>Downfall of UCLA and the raise of UCSD?</p>

<p>I don’t know but if UCSD got a football team it’d help the school gain a lot of ground in the public eye (albeit still gradually), believe it or not. lol</p>

<p>Title is incorrect, but UCSD was ranked as one of the up and coming colleges. It hasnt been in existence as long as UCLA and some other school but i can see it passing it in the future. Although it probably will never be the most applied to school like UCLA since we’re division 2 (:</p>

<p>^well there are “talks” going on concerning upgrading all division two sports to division one and gaining a football team…so when that day comes, hopefully ucsd will be the most applied to school ; )</p>

<p>^^ Do you have any sources that support that claim? I would LOVE for UCSD to get a football team. Perhaps, UCSD can work on improving their basketball team? UCLA does not have a very good football team, but I do agree the football team does help the school’s national recognition.</p>

<p>“Does UCSD have a chance of becoming academic equals to UCSD?”</p>

<p>It’s hard to say. If UCSD gets better academically, UCSD will also inevitably get better academically and vice versa.</p>

<p>I’d say it’s pretty neck and neck</p>

<p>well, i am in the student government at one of the colleges, so we sometimes here lots of chatter about the subject. from what we know, i know that the former AS President initiated talks with that department and they have said that they are considering it, but nothing concrete though (well mainly bc we are deep in the budget crisis, maybe after). i do not know if the current AS President will follow up with that…</p>

<p>Sorry yes the title is wrong! I meant academic equals to UCLA. </p>

<p>Moving on, I cam across some interesting recent articles.
[Joint</a> Investment|The Guardian](<a href=“http://www.ucsdguardian.org/news/joint-investment/]Joint”>Joint Investment – The UCSD Guardian)
[Football</a> May Be Out of Our League, But Not a D-I Liftoff|The Guardian](<a href=“http://www.ucsdguardian.org/opinion/editorials/football-may-be-out-of-our-league-but-not-a-d-i-liftoff/]Football”>Football May Be Out of Our League, But Not a D-I Liftoff – The UCSD Guardian)</p>

<p>well at least our team is undefeated</p>

<p>rofl, ucsd won’t get a football team in the near future, don’t get your hopes up</p>

<p>ucsd didn’t even start offering scholarships to athletes until a few years ago, and that’s pretty pathetic, even IF we are only d2. ucsd only offers 500 dollar scholarships right now… wat the hell? and they wont offer more cuz they dont want to spend too much money.</p>

<p>heck, our d2 baseball team this last year was rank 1 in d2, but we dont even have a baseball field on campus so they have to go off campus to play their games, and no one gave a rat’s ass about the team. </p>

<p>all the students at ucsd always complain about how ucsd’s athletics program sucks, but they do not realize that a football team won’t come unless the popularity of its other sports increases, which will thereby make it more likely for a football team to be made. but even when our baseball team was the best team in d2, no one cared. that alone will ensure that ucsd won’t get a football team in the forseeable future.</p>

<p>so D-1 sports = academic excellence?</p>

<p>but baseball looks like a boring sport, at least in football you get to see people getting tackled :P</p>

<p>@BaiBoi</p>

<p>D-1 = more people applying to the school through popularity = higher chance people w/ supposedly higher intellect apply = more competitive admissions = etc etc etc</p>

<p>I can’t take this thread seriously. It should be worded “academically equivalent to UCLA”. We look like idiots.</p>

<p>end rant</p>

<p>It’d be cool for D-1 volleyball.</p>

<p>This whole thread is totally ridiculous. What do rankings really mean? I can go to a random website and prove UCSD is better academically than UCLA.</p>

<p>[Top</a> 100 Universities: Top Universities Best Colleges Top 100 Colleges and Universities](<a href=“http://www.ulinks.com/topuniversities.htm]Top”>Top 100 Universities in the World: Best Colleges)</p>

<p>LOOK! THERE WE GO! I DID IT! UCSD IS BETTER THAN UCLA!!!</p>

<p>Do the people who make these rankings sit through classes? No. Do they talk to professors? No. Do they go on university run internships? No. We can intuitively understand that Harvard is better than Chico State but there’s a lot of room in between that I wonder about sometimes.</p>

<p>Secondly, nothing we do with the sports teams will make us more academically prestigious. Professors don’t say “We have a football team now? I’m think I’ll start teaching better”. And also, if you think having a Division II football team will make us any more popular, I will ask you this. Name one D2 university that has a football team… exactly, they aren’t too popular. If we moved up to D1, we might be a little more popular for athletes but it won’t change much, let alone becoming academically better. And seriously, I don’t think we’ll be getting a football team until the university proves that students will actually go to the games because right now, nobody goes to the other sporting events.</p>

<p>@Avib0y</p>

<p>There’s a huge difference between the Pac-10 and the Big West. Are Davis and Irvine popular for their sports? Hell no. People don’t go there for that. Also, more highly intellectual students don’t pick schools so they can watch crappy sports. It just doesn’t work like that. They also don’t make universities better academically either.</p>

<p>@Crazyforlife</p>

<p>Ours men’s team is D1 and ranked top 15 in the nation.</p>

<p>Lol that was funny.
and I didnt know a single sport and be separately in a different division?</p>

<p>^It depends on the sport. Men’s volleyball has a different league than most of the other sports so that’s why we’re in a different division.</p>

<p>@Kings…</p>

<p>I never meant to imply that I personally believe that highly intellectual people apply to school because of sports. Hence why I said “supposedly.” I’m just reiterating the common, yet unjustified, belief that the vast majority hold</p>