Doing bad. Really. Really. REALLY BAD. Can I still go to med school? (need advice)

Pre-Med & Medical School High School Student Topics
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<p>"Well, maybe you should look at the Wash U supplement YOURSELF.
<a href="https://aladdin.wustl.edu/admission...ksheet?openform%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://aladdin.wustl.edu/admission...ksheet?openform&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"Very wrong" indeed?"</p>

<p>And this is one school out of HOW MANY? Seriously, don't freak people out. 99% High school doesn't matter once you're applying for med schools. With that being said, if you aren't doing well now what makes you so sure that you are going to do amazingly in your undergrad? Is there an outside factor causing you to almost fail some of your sciences or are you blatently just bad at them? If science isn't your strong point, you could be very well lost in undergrad too.</p>

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<p>Well, I'm actually pretty good at math and science, my 2 best classes. the main reason i've been failing is not doing my homework. The classes i'm doing better at are either not as homework intesive, or are later in the day for me to do during lunch or something. I know, it's really bad, but thats all going to change.</p>

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<p>you make it sound like it's so easy, but in reality doing something like that is a lot harder and not as simple</p>

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<p>then how do I go about doing it? Any tips/ideas/advice?</p>

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<p>heres a tip...ready for it?.....quit ****ing around. How the hell do you do that horribly your first 2 years of high school and expect to go to a big name school by just working your last 2 years of high school, by the way most colleges usually dont even see your senior year, so then you have one year to make it all up. you need to stop aiming towards the stars and work with what you got now because it's too late to change those grades</p>

<p>You can everything off now by forgetting about med school or big name colleges, but focus on graduating with at least a 2.0 unweighted, and maybe get into a college semi-medicore college. Any by that time you better hope your study habits have improved because that's all college pre-med is...work work work, especially organic chemistry</p>

<p>Another thing are the sat's, hopefully if your smart enough, you can take the psat's your junior year and qualify as a national merit semi-finalist at least. There are a few high ranked colleges that will take almost anyone with those even if they have a low gpa. I know this because I have a friend who was a semi-finalist and scored a 2050 on his sat's get accepted to the university of florida even though he had a 2.8 unweighted gpa.</p>

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<p>^^thanks alot Rav2010 for the honest reply. You're right, I definitely need to improve my study habits and everything.</p>

<p>So, the colleges will ask for my UNWEIGHTED GPA?!?!? If this is true, then I'm REALLY screwed arnt I...</p>

<p>I saw in the princeton review, that like the average gpa of a certain school is 3.5. What if my gpa is like... a 3.2? Will they accept me?</p>

<p>I'm i these clubs: Math club, Youth & Government Club, Chess Club... and thats it.</p>

<p>I didn't make speech team, I know I won't make the tenis team, but I do take tenis lessons. does that count for anything? Also, what can I do to prepare for the Merit Scholar thing? Any info on that?</p>

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<p>most colleges recalculate your gpa using only your core classes and a few electives. Most of the time it's higher when it's recalculated. Example, my accum. gpa was 3.5, the recalculated gpa came up to 3.9, a lot of people don't mention the recalculations.</p>

<p>ec's aren't as important as your classes, focus on your classes first then if you have extra time you should take a sport or something else you like.</p>

<p>for the merit scholar thing, it's all about how good you are at taking the sat/psat. Buy a princeton review and just do all the practice test. I didn't do well on my psat, mainly because I never cracked open a book or a practice test.</p>

<p>And average gpa for every college is different, Harvard could have an average of 4.0, University of Florida has one of about 3.7, and lesser known colleges like floida gulf coast could have like a 2.5. every college is different, a well-known college could have a high gpa and a less than medicore college could have a low gpa.</p>

<p>So if your question is whether you can get into A COLLEGE, yes you will get into A COLLEGE, that doesnt mean a good college</p>

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<p>Say I do good from now on, changing my habits and all, get to a crappy/mediocre college, and excel there also. Could I transfer to a better college?</p>

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<p>My thought is that you're looking way too far ahead. Focus on high school, pull your act together, and then things will become clearer about your future and what colleges you have a chance at.</p>

<p>It's next to impossible to predict someone's future.</p>

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<p>ya def get into sum AP's and work harder from now on, although most medical schools DONT look at HS, I know some of the top ones do want you to list your HS classes along with SAT and GPA so just really pick it up. </p>

<p>You do need to concentrate on the present and not worry too much about the future, just get into a respectable college and then worry about medical school, but you need to really work now</p>

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<p>Just focus on high school right now... even if you get straight A's from now on, you're not going to be going Ivy League. You've got to do all of your assignments and understand the material.. get help if you don't know how to do something. If you plan to succeed in college, you have to learn study skills now since getting into a decent med school will require you to do incredibly well in college. I'm just curious, what attracts you to being a doctor?</p>

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<p>Don't even think about college right now, focus on getting A's in your classes and doing all your homework, and studying. From the looks of it, you have never done either of those before. If you finish sophomore year well, then look into some AP classes, and don't slack off in those either. Saying you are going to change is one thing, actually doing it is another. The fact that you did so poorly in those freshman classes basially eliminates you from having any chance at a prestigious undergrad.</p>

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<p>...going to a big name college will probably be detramental for you anyway...you're graded compared to your peers, and say you even go to the easiest top tier college (whatever that might be in your opinion), you probably will have an even lower GPA in college than in HS and will not get into any medschools</p>

<p>truly, though, don't worry about it...I won't lie: you're screwed for undergraduate, and that's all there is to it. However, I'm sure that your learning from your experience of slacking off and the negative sides to it. As soon as you hit college, you better study like crazy and keep a high GPA and get a good MCAT score. If not, you'll be back to step one, but wait...it's more than that...only about half of the people who apply to medschool get in...and by your HS record, it looks like you'd be in the bottom half and won't get into medschool at all...not even considering the top tier ones you want.</p>

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<p>I was in your shoes two years ago with a relatively low GPA...I also want to be a doctor.</p>

<p>I decided to do my homework and work hard and I've had a 4.5W GPA over the final two years of my high school career. </p>

<p>So all you can do is your best, AP classes, all A's</p>

<p>It shows colleges something.</p>

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<p>^^ determination and perseverance.</p>

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<p>averagedesi....mai bhe desi ho haha</p>

<p>yeah i also want to be a doctor.</p>

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<p>man, ok, honestly, your screwed for undergrad with prestigious schools. but you already know that from eveyone else. so let me state something thats not obvious and that you might not already know, all these guys have been talking about is med school, but didnt you say something about engineering as well? thats what i know....as far as your gpa goes, i dont know what the med schools look at, but im currently at an engineering school, in my sophmore year, (attending South Dakota School of Mines for Electrical Engineering). and let me tell you one thing, taking all AP courses that have nothing to do with your major DOESNT help. and for an engineering school they DO look at your last years in HS. they dont look at your freshmen and sophmore year for the most part, so that on the other hand is good news, for once. I took chem, physics, advanced electronis, and college prep math(the math for the first semester because it was too frikin easy, i was Acing it, and it was a waste of my time)my senior year. Every engineering school i asked, even though math is a HUGE part of engineering they didnt care that i dropped out of college prep math, (since it was so easy for me).<br>
which brings me to one of my biggest points, the best way i can explain is by example, if your going to school, for electrical engineering so to say like myself, and on your HS transcript, its not going to do you a damn bit of good to take stuff like pottery, american lit, history, algebra, EVEN IF they are AP becasue they have NOTHING TO DO with your major. Take classes that have something to do with what you want to do with your life, that will help a lot. ok that point out of the way...
the thing about the SAT's lol, ok the SAT books and practice crap, wow those are so incredibly overrated. they honestly really teach you nothing about the SAT's. I am a firm beleiver that the SAT practice tests from books you buy and guidebooks as such, are a load of crap, they dont help, just forget about em. NOT saying that the PSAT is a bad thing, do not misunderstand that, im simply talking about the stupid books from the bookstore about helping with SAT's, nothing helps really, sorry about the honesty, but that crap doesnt do anything to benefit you really. If your doing allright in school and you know your stuff, youll be fine, dont worry about it.
one last thing i would like to add, i agree with a few ppl on there that you are looking waaaay too far ahead man. get your stuff together, study up, get to where you know your crap, THEN worry about med school. I think your trying to go straight from A to C and your fogetting about the very important and crucial B in between them, just saying that you need to focus on the now and not the future. Just do what you plan to do, buckle down, focus, and EVENTUALLY youll get to where you want to be if you truly want it enough and beleive in yourself that you can do it.
well i hope this helped you, i really do, otherwise i wouldnt have taken the time to write all this stuff for you. I hope everything works out for you and good luck!!! :-)</p>

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<p>I can help you out with your SATs stuff</p>

<p>I went from a 1140 my freshman year to a 1400 junior year (out of 1600!) </p>

<p>looking at 1500+ on retake..</p>

<p>and im Indian.. :o , speaking of which why arent your parents beating your sorry ass?</p>

<p>..you got a s/n?</p>

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<p>Maybe you should talk to your advisor and drop yourself out of the honors or AP....to avoid the D's and C's unless you're really good at the subject and have confidence for an A....I'm not trying to degrade you, but you have a lot of Cs and Ds in the honors or AP....it's starting to get annoying.... continuing with them would not be my suggestion.....I remember for my high school, once a person get below a B in Honors or AP they're automatically dropped to regular no questions allowed grade tells all.</p>

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So, basically I just have to focus and get good grades so I can go to a mediocre undergrad school. Now, to go to a prestegious MED school, I can do amazing in undergrad, do amazing on the MCATs, and I'm set?

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Striving to become a doctor is a terrific and noble goal ... I wish you all the best achieving your goal. As many have mentioned you can get to med school from any reasonable undergrad school as long as you do a great job as an undergrad (and on the MCATs). I'm stuck on your plans to do so great in college while you're still struggling in HS ... college is much-much more diffiecult than HS ... before worrying about your 4.0 in college and then your med school options I would suggest you focus on your struggles in HS ... is it your course selection, study habits, test anxiety, etc? ... you need to figure out how to suceed in HS and then undergrad and grad school will unfold for you.</p>