<p>i kinda agree w/ u. when ppl have a gf/bf already, they feel "loved" already so don't have to look all that good to impress.</p>
<p>but in the other hand, i would dress nicer when i have a bf just because i wanna dress nice for him.</p>
<p>I'm 5'4" and very skinny. Pretty much been short and skinny all my life, so my confidence never was high. Explains why I've never had a girlfriend. Starting my second year of college this year, and you know what? Screw being a quiet nerd. I'm not really gonna care anymore if the girls are taller or beautiful...time to take chances this year!</p>
<p>yea...just take chances...if they say no, they're not worth it or never meant to be...</p>
<p>i guess it's a trade off. go to ivy, make lots of $$$, but give up social/love life.</p>
<p>? wat do u mean by go to ivy, make lots of $$$. school names r that important?</p>
<p>I've never understood the perception that young women are more mature at a given age than young men. Maybe it stems from the fact that women mature physically faster or the tradition of young women dating older men. From personal experience in high school, though, I've always felt that young women were less mature, less logical, and just not as good people compared to young men.</p>
<p>As for the height issue, I am a pretty tall male, almost 6'3", and I understand the attraction to height. I like being tall and I think it makes people look more impressive, more mature, and stately. But I have to empathise with shorter guys, having many short friends throughout life. Maybe my view on this subject is distorted because I am a guy and I am tall. To me, shorter people are short, I dont really differentiate between 5'2 and 5'7. I don't know. I just know that I am really, really glad that I am tall. It suits my personality.</p>
<p>I'm curious to hear from the guys: What about shorter girls-what do you normally think of them? If I were a guy I'd probably think that as long as she had a good face/body it doesn't matter about height. How short is too short?</p>
<p>for a guy, i don't think you could have too short. too tall would be a girl taller than you. girls it goes the other way around i would think. but oftentimes someone being beautiful doesn't have much to do with height. it's just like "they're not my type." but if you're just looking for a friend, height doesn't matter. ive got a good female friend over six feet tall.</p>
<p>but yeah i agree young women think theyre more mature than they really are, but young guys can be pretty impulsive sometimes (like with spitballs). i can definietly see taller people being more stately. most US Presidents have been over six feet tall, and during the 1992 election the republicans i believe hosted one of the debates. Ross Perot was short, so they used taller stools so that his feet didnt touch the ground, making him look like a little kid.</p>
<p>As to the "go to ivy, make $$$, give up love life" -- I have the following probably over-generalized observation (which should probably be taken with a grain of salt).</p>
<p>In my experience at MIT (which I imagine would hold for any other school where students are very focused on schoolwork), a lot of people are in relationships, but they're almost exclusively serious relationships. There's just not time/inclination to date around, so relationships get serious pretty fast.</p>
<p>So maybe you only have to give up your love life if you don't want to get married right out of college. :)</p>
<p>Yeah the point about presidents and height is very true unfortunately it wasn't this past year. Did any of you notice how on the national debates, they used to split screen to make the short George W. the same height as Kerry?</p>
<p>Height matters for guys too. Ideally, I wouldn't want to date a girl shorter than 5'4 but no taller than 6'4. It's not that I find shorter girls less attractive it's just that I feel too awkward around them. A girl can't be half my weight either (< 100 lbs) ...just to small. That being said, my uncle is as tall as I am and his wife is like 5'2 or 5'1 but I can't imagine myself being in that situation. </p>
<p>And what's all this mrs. degree stuff....getting married right out of college? It's annoying when you're with a girl and a lot of her friends are getting engaged and you feel like she wants to keep up with them. It almost seems like there's a race to be married first or just not to get married last...which i just think ends up being a race to get divorced first.</p>
<p>no - i meant, to get into an ivy, you are going to have to sacrifice a sociial/love life most of the time. i dont think its worth it, you're better off going to a less exclusive school and enjoying yourself in adolescence.</p>
<p>I find girls from 5 feet to 6 feet attractive.. well 6 feet is getting up there, and they are usually somewhat mannish, bleh</p>
<p>the point is, if they are attractive and below my height, i dont care how tall a girl is</p>
<p>i dont agree. you don't hafta give up a love life to go to an awesome school. people i know going to stanford and wharton have mad hot girlfriends.</p>
<p>wow this thread is really interesting. Yeah I'm 5'1" and I've always been attracted to guys over 6 feet, I don't know why, maybe it is that whole 'protected' thing. But I've also never had a bf or been kissed in high school (gonna be a senior) but going to an all girls high school it makes things alot harder. I mean, I get out of school at 5:30 and then I have work and ECs so when am I supposed to meet guys. The most action we ever got was meeting up w/ guys from the all boys high school down the block at lunch. Yeah, spicy I know. :( We'll see how college changes stuff, although its weird how I'm looking at Barnard, I guess I just like that all-girls thing.</p>
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<p>Agreed. I was wondering about that myself.</p>
<p>Speaking of generalizations, this thread has a lot generalizations. Not pointing at anyone particular. But rather at people who discuss the subject of dating in general.</p>
<p>It's all too true that we are all to some extent shallow beings. But are we really being shallow if physical attraction just comes naturally to us? Not really I think. However, who doesn't look physically attractive enough to one person may look good enough to someone else. And if you feel like you are too ugly or hate whatever "shortcomings" you have, then do something about it! I'm 5'7" but have been hitting the gym ever since January. I'm a decent looking person but not all that great but I still get dates. If you're interested in someone, whether you are a guy or girl, just freakin' approach them and see what happens!</p>
<p>I can relate to the shy guys in here as I used to be really really shy. Now days I have an easier time approaching girls. But don't worry over time you just naturally get better at it if you keep trying. Also, having some other passions in life would make you just that much more attractive to people. There's nothing more unattractive to me then some girl who has no drive in life or has any passions in life (this is of course, in the context of finding a girl who is relationship material).</p>
<p>People, don't make dating such a difficult issue regardless of your circumstances and past. It's really that easy. Get to know people. Get attracted. Ask them out (or they ask you out). Boom. That's it. It may happen in two weeks. It may happen in five months. Heck, it could be two years before you finally find someone. But it's important to be at peace with yourself the whole time and also don't become a doormat in general.</p>
<p>By the way I've never had a girlfriend. Just have "hooked-up" with a few girls in the past. You will see a lot less people in relationships in college. That's for sure. There's a lot more "hooking-up" and things like that going on. But don't let that discourage you one bit if you still want to find that special someone. </p>
<p>Good luck to all and I really need to stop talking.</p>
<p>I feel silly posting this, but I'll do it anyway. In high school, I never had a gf and as far as I know maybe one girl was interested in me for a brief time. I just graduated from Cornell and over the course of four years I dated 4 girls, with my current relationship going for almost 2 years now.</p>
<p>I was rather shy in high school but I became more social and outgoing in college. You meet a lot of people if you are friendly. You meet people through those people and you get a nice group of friends and acquaintances, and you'll find someone you click with. Don't be afraid to be yourself. The key is confidence - not just for dating or whatever but for overall happiness too.</p>
<p>Also, I was never into hooking up or random flings. Don't compromise your belief system. Ever. Trust your gut and don't do anything that will make you uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Someone asked if girls are more mature in college. No, they don't really change to be honest with you, but there are so many more girls and girls from different backgrounds that you'll eventually find someone that is sane. </p>
<p>I personally don't recommend getting in a serious relationship for at least the first semester, possibly the first year. If you become too entangled with someone, you miss out on making friends at the beginning of college, which is the most crucial time to do so. I mention this because most serious relationships crash and you'll regret missing out on good times. Granted, this doesn't apply to every couple. Hell, I started dating my gf when she was a first semester freshman so I didn't even really follow my own advice.</p>
<p>Since this is a general dating thread, I guess I'll give some more advice and build on what adconard said. Everyone has shortcomings but everyone also has strengths. I'm short (also 5'7") and am probably average looking or worse, but I'm a funny guy and am constantly cracking jokes. The girls I've dated have liked my ... quirky ... sense of humor. Everyone has his or her strengths.</p>
<p>You'll find that you'll end up meeting future gf/bf's when you're least expecting it. Most importantly, remember that having an SO isn't requisite for happiness. Be happy with yourself first and the rest will fall into place.</p>
<p>OK that's enough rambling from me. Enjoy your summers :)</p>
<p>edit: in response to the OP, it's very normal and nothing all to be ashamed of. high school is dumb anyway :)
edit2: it's funny reading everyone's description of the type of person they find attractive because that all flies out the window when you meet the right person</p>
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<p>but its probably more likely that your tall stature defined your personality :-)</p>
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<p>Man, I'd kill to be 3 inches taller...oh well, at least I've got my humor...heh.</p>
<p>Shizz, that's some good advice there.</p>
<p>hehe i just ran into a couple chicks i met when i was drunk. surprisingly they were just as nice sober as they were when they were drunk. nice to get that "first" scenario out of the way before college.</p>