Duke vs Queen's Commerce

[StarsAligned]

<p>Duke unfortunately releases minimal statistics. I can see that it is recruited well (GS, etc. in top employers, high % into finance) but can anyone guesstimate, or even better have insider info of, the actual number of BB jobs Duke grads normally get?</p>

<p>It's really hard comparing Duke to my other option, Queen's University Commerce (in Canada), where at least there is concrete evidence of some top placements.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

[lesdiablesbleus]

<p>If you want to work on Wall Street in New York, Queens is simply not in the same league as Duke recruitment wise. No Canadian university really is. I don’t know about the school’s reputation in Canada though if it would be better or worse than Duke if you wanted to do Finance there.</p>

[IvyPBear]

<p>lesdiablesbleus is absolutely right. Queens is many tiers below Duke for placement into Wall Street.</p>

[StarsAligned]

<p>What about just breaking into IB? Is there really a big difference between Toronto and NYC if it is the same job and same employer?</p>

[mathematicism]

<p>^ Why not try posting this thread on WSO? XD</p>

[StarsAligned]

<p>Already did! But I think half of them have never heard of Queen’s, and many of them are taking it from a strictly NYC-placement perspective (where obviously Duke is stronger).</p>

<p>Still great feedback though!
[Duke</a> vs Queen’s Commerce | WallStreetOasis.com](<a href=“http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/duke-vs-queens-commerce]Duke”>Duke vs Queen's Commerce | Wall Street Oasis)</p>

[PrincetonDreams]

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Not to be annoying, but I obviously live in the U.S. and I have never heard of Queens’ College. Not saying it’s a bad school (may even be great for Canada IBD recruiting), but Duke>Queens.

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<p>^ That was funny.</p>

<p>I live in the UK, but I’ve lived in Canada and the U.S. too so I know of both these schools. Most people outside of Canada have simply not heard of Queen’s BCom. Some know about Ivey, but still not too many. That said, Queen’s has a good placement rate in Toronto, but Duke offers so much more flexibility (New York, London, HK are all places where Duke is well-known and a serious player). I have no doubt you will get way more opportunities than a Commerce kid would. Also, from the people that I know who go to College in Canada, many would, if given the opportunity, choose an Ivy+Plus school over their current school, no matter what the program.</p>

[mathematicism]

<p>@StarsAligned</p>

<p>Come to think about it, I’m a little curious as to why you left Penn out of the question. =P</p>

[StarsAligned]

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I live in the UK, but I’ve lived in Canada and the U.S. too so I know of both these schools. Most people outside of Canada have simply not heard of Queen’s BCom. Some know about Ivey, but still not too many. That said, Queen’s has a good placement rate in Toronto, but Duke offers so much more flexibility (New York, London, HK are all places where Duke is well-known and a serious player). I have no doubt you will get way more opportunities than a Commerce kid would. Also, from the people that I know who go to College in Canada, many would, if given the opportunity, choose an Ivy+Plus school over their current school, no matter what the program.

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<p>Thank you very much PrincetonDreams!
I have one worry though; do you think it will be a major disadvantage that I am an international student and will need a willing sponsor? Even Accenture, a huge company, won’t sponsor internationals for US jobs! Also, what do you think the prospects are if I return to Canada looking for employment? Thanks!</p>

<p>@Math I think Penn econ would be dwarfed by Wharton so I’m hesitant …</p>

[PrincetonDreams]

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I have one worry though; do you think it will be a major disadvantage that I am an international student and will need a willing sponsor?

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<p>Sadly, yes you will. A lot of US firms wont even consider you if you don’t have work authorization. Even those who had established their careers at prestigious companies like Google have been forced to leave. It sucks, but that’s how it is. You can work around it though, by working a couple of years in Europe or Asia, and then transferring to the New York offices. If you wish to return to Canada, however:</p>

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Also, what do you think the prospects are if I return to Canada looking for employment?

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<p>Very good. You’ll be distinguished from your competitors at UWO and Queen’s if you do well at a highly respectable US school like Duke.</p>

<p>I wish you the best of luck with your decision! :)</p>