<p>If anyone's child applied EA last year, could you please tell me if the school(s) came back and requested quarter grade reports or if they just asked for the mid-year report (semester grades) after the admissions decision was made.</p>
<p>My daughter has been having some complications from her surgery last summer and, as a result, her quarter grade report was less than stellar. She's undergoing treatment for her health problems now so hopefully her grades will be back up by the end of the semester.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, she is applying EA to all of the schools on her list. Transcripts have already gone out showing 9-11 grades. Her GPA is at or above the median of all of the schools on the list and her test scores are also. I'm just wondering if some of the schools will ask to see quarter grades. If so, she may be sunk, although I suppose the GC can explain what has happened with her health. </p>
<p>If they don't ask, don't send. If they do ask, send and explain. Illness and surgery and their impact on grades is not a particularly unusual situation, unfortunately, but one an admissions office should be able to understand. (If they don't, would you want your d. to attend?)</p>
<p>(But I know that doesn't answer your question as to whether they will ask for them - I doubt it, though.)</p>
<p>The EA school did require quarter grades since semester grades are not available until January after EA decisions have already been made (in fact S's semester grades were not available until late January). Your D's GC should write a letter explaining what happened with her health and his confidence that she will bring up her grades now that her episode of bad health is behind her.</p>
<p>In S's case, EA school required end-of-year transcript only. Agree with mini - if not asked, don't send. I think you can scope this out in their app materials, but maybe not or maybe it is "clear as mud."</p>
<p>Some schools send letters, or online they list what is outstanding. Why not call the schools and ask if they have received everything they need? I would think that they will tell you that they require the first quarter if that is their policy. Some schools make decisions based on grades 9-11, and do not even look at 12th grade (for admissions and merit scholarships) except that they request a final transcript to make sure the student graduated at year end.</p>
<p>Carolyn: My D was admitted to Carleton ED. They did not require senior-year quarter grades or midyear transcript, just the year-end transcript. But this was not made clear in their application materials for ED. I'm with the wait and see advice.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone. Northeastmom, I think your suggestion is a good one: I'll call each school to check what's needed and see if they bring up the need for quarter grades. I'll also talk to her GC on Monday because she has been reluctant to tell any of her teachers or the GC about what she's going through because she doesn't want to sound like she's making excuses. Unfortunately, this isn't a case of making excuses - it really has been impossible for her to keep up with the work for the past month as she's been in almost constant severe pain, unable to eat, and having difficulty sleeping. Ironically, one of her teachers mentioned she's not participating in class - well, she can barely talk. Sometimes she can be pretty stubborn about things, but this is clearly a case where I need to at least bring all of her teachers up to speed, even if she doesn't want me to.</p>
<p>About bringing gc and teachers up to speed about your D is very important, and I would do the same thing. That will take the blinders off, and explain her grades and lack of talking in class. </p>
<p>I know one school that my S is applying to asks for first quarter grades, but by phone they told me that they will call the high school if they need them (I guess if you are more borderline, they look further). Another school sent a letter to my S and it says that they received the app, but will not make decisions as to admission until first quarter grades are received. I guess it varies widely.</p>
<p>Last year my son's college counselor told him about half the colleges will call for first quarter grades from ED/EA applicants. The counselor couldn't identify schools which did this consistently year to year. In some cases, the colleges only asked for 1Q grades for applicants who were on the margin; other schools would call for almost everyone.</p>
<p>If the schools are going to call for the grades, it's probably going to be later in November after they've read through the files at least once. I don't think calling now to see if they have everything they want will help answer whether or not admissions might decide to ask for these grades after reviewing the file.</p>
<p>Thanks Jpar. We did a bit of research last night and saw that the top two schools on her list both ask for midsemester grade reports if you're applying RD but don't say anything for EA. </p>
<p>She sent an email to them saying her grades through 11th were sent already and would they be requiring anything else. We'll see what they reply. She didn't put her name on the email (and used my account) and phrased it in a kind of general "see you need mid year grades, should EA applicants send them too?"</p>
<p>Her first quarter grades were such , she may need to just switch to RD if she has to send them. It is a HUGE bump in her transcript - totally out of keeping with her past history - and I'd hate to have that be the last thing an admissions committee sees about her. Needless to say, we're both pretty bummed about this whole thing. I'm going to talk to the GC in the morning to explain about the health stuff and get her take. However, since these are schools that no one from her high school has applied to before, I doubt she'll have much to offer in terms of advice. :(</p>
<p>sorry to hear that D is still on the mend. But, definitely clue-in teachers and GC -- after all, they should be made aware of the reason that D is not participating as much as she used to, particularly if they are writing recs.</p>
<p>Carolyn, even if one of the schools does call for the 1Q grades later this month, I think the worse case scenario would be that the school might decide to defer your daughter's application to the regular pool to see if the first semester grades come in more in line with the past. I agree it's a good idea to make the GC aware of your daughter's health issues - so she can mention this to the college(s) if/when they call for the grades. I would think the colleges would be pretty understanding given the health complications.</p>
<p>Well, some good news. One of the schools has already responded to her email (on a Sunday!) and said that she should just send in her semester grades using the midyear report form. Unlike all of the other schools she's applying to, this one doesn't promise to return EA decisions until the end of January so it sounds like they must wait on semester grades for everyone. Luckily, this is also one of her top choices. </p>
<p>She is going to go in and have a long talk with her guidance counselor about all of this tommorrow. Parent-teacher conferences are on Wed. and I'll also talk to her teachers and the guidance counselor then. </p>
<p>Thanks for the well wishes for her recovery, the past month has been a difficult one for her health-wise and it was a hard blow to see the effect on her quarter grades, even though it was somewhat expected.</p>
<p>I am so glad to hear of your good news today! There must be a real sense of relief at your house! I am also very glad to know that your DD is now willing to talk to the counselor (and for you to talk to her teachers) to share what has been such a major piece of her life this last year. She has been such a good student, it would be a shame for folks not to understand that her health is impacting her work at this time. I continue to pray for swift and complete healing.</p>
<p>I am sorry to hear your DD is miserable right now and stressed. When you speak with the GC and her teachers if you have her doctor's paperwork documenting her misery maybe not only would it explain the situation, but maybe (oh I hope) some if not all of her teachers might give her an extension on her work. Or maybe re-take some quizzes and exams? </p>
<p>The worse they can say is no which is where she is now. I would think based on her previous track record they would be understanding and would want to help her out. If she is suffering sleep-wise as well, I can't imagine paying attention in class and actually focusing, no less doing well.</p>
<p>Give her a hug from our family, big football hugs all around!!!</p>
<p>Carolyn,
Sorry to hear about your D. Last year, my S had a horrible 1st quarter report card. I mean he had a D and an F on it! He had totally succumbed to senioritis the first 10 weeks of school. I was so angry with him because junior year was nothing but As and we had spent a lot of money on a family trip to see east coast universities. Seriously wanted to strangle the kid. I worried mightily about his EA school requesting the first quarter report card. They did not say anything in writing about it for EA kids. </p>
<p>I talked with his counselor and he said that it was the school district's policy that first quarter report cards are not public information; they are progress reports for parents and students. He said they would not send out the report card grades even if asked by the EA school. I was relieved but still worried, thinking any small problem (like not having mid-semester grades) would cause him to be deferred at best. It turned out the EA school (UChicago) never asked for the mid-semester grades, just the mid-year report after he'd been accepted EA. By semester he'd pulled them all up to A's again, so it was no problem then. I bet your D will do the same; and I sure hope she feels better soon. At least the counselor can attach a letter to her transcript if necessary, since your D has a very valid reason for the decline. My S was just a dope!! </p>
<p>(He pulled the same dumb-lazy thing during fourth quarter and ended up with grades far worse than any in the previous three and a half years, but none of them were bad enough to get his acceptance to Cal rescinded, thank goodness! Currently, he's getting A's at school.)</p>