<p>^ State flagships generally have better yield than private schools.</p>
<p>Comparing Duke’s yield to that of its (private) peer institutions is fair game. The fact of the matter is, all of the non-HYP ivies have higher yields than Duke. Or, do you want to argue that Duke’s not their peer?</p>
<p>Remember, also, that the non-HYP ivies cannot offer merit or athletic scholarships like Duke.</p>
<p>P.S. Your yield #'s are either outdated or incorrect. Vanderbilt’s yield is approximately 40%, similar to that of Duke. Maybe you two can fight over who’s the real “Harvard of the South”?</p>
<p>Keep in mind that my yield argument is being used to dispute monstor344’s point that Duke will someday achieve HYPS status.</p>
<p>Despite no Early Decision or merit scholarships, HYPS has 65-75% yield to Duke’s 40%, along with single-digit acceptance rates.</p>
<p>If Duke ever approaches HYPS admissions numbers (which doesn’t seem likely), they could increase financial aid or offer (merit) money as well (and they have much more of it), thereby destroying Duke.</p>
<p>I think you’ll have to first realize that no one is under the delusion that Duke is <em>currently</em> an academic equivalent of HYPSM. Duke is, by no means, the best school nor is it the worst school. No one advertises Duke as the “best school in the world” or even in the nation. Stanford is, for good reason, the best school on the West Coast, while HYP hold their titles for good reason as well in the North. Duke is, however, almost undoubtedly the most prestigious and academically-strong school in the South. Your recurring posts point out that Duke students and advocates ride under the delusion that “they are the best school”. That could apply to any student and advocate at any school frankly. I could go to my state school and claim that it’s the best school in the nation with no credentials attached whatsoever. </p>
<p>Anyhow, as much as you seem to disdain Duke and all those who associate with Duke, you cannot in any way, shape, or form prove that Duke is inferior to most schools. In fact, I would say that Duke is better than “most” schools. Schools such as UChicago, JHU, lesser-Ivies, etc. are arguably better than Duke, but arguments can be made for both sides.</p>
<p>A Duke degree is, by no standard, looked down upon in any sense. Duke is a great school, not the best, but still good.</p>
<p>Saying Duke is not “<em>currently</em> an academic equivalent of HYPSM” is kind of like my saying that: I am <em>currently</em> not the Queen of England.</p>
<p>This thread is about the 32% (actually it’s 33%) increase that Duke had in ED applications ty vs. ly
Why is interestingguy (who doesn’t seem so interesting to me btw) so hell bent on putting Duke down when obviously it is on a major uptrend?
Interestingguy . . . please go away and try to do something interesting instead of showing us your ugly, angry, insecure side. Thank you.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to say that your example doesn’t quite fit my claim. Saying that Duke isn’t <em>currently</em> an academic equivalent of HYPSM implies that becoming an academic equivalent is possible – I’m not, like others, saying that it’ll necessarily happen --. Your example implies that you <em>could</em> potentially become the Queen of England, which I don’t see possible in that you’re probably not of the royal line of Windsor.</p>
<p>sorry Duke is def in the Top 10 in the nation. I really could careless about all the links that , that guy post. Stanford is great school, yes, no one is denying that but so is Duke. When you get to such high performing schools it becomes very nuanced when ranking the schools. Some people excel at certain schools. So get over yourself dude, Stanford is great but so is Duke.</p>
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What about the inability to recognize metaphorical speech? Or do you think that highly of yourself that you consider yourself to be on the Mount Olympus of Academics?</p>
<p>interestinguy- "If I am “unintelligent” and “illiterate” and you were rejected at the school I currently attend, then what does that make you??? "</p>
<p>Or in other words, “I know you are but what am I”. Really? that’s the best you’ve got?</p>
Duke has been around, what, 70 years? Even Stanford has nearly a century’s lead.
Duke’s ED apps are up 32% in a year. If this is the beginning of a trend (how can it not be? That’s a HUGE difference) then Duke’s yield is bound to spike very, very soon. </p>
<p>To add a little anecdotal support: at my top NE HS, it was practically tradition for top students to go SCEA to Yale or ED to an Ivy; people like to stay in the northeast. But the last ~3 years have seen unprecedented early apps to Duke in lieu of applying early to an Ivy. Duke’s relatively high acceptance rate is misleading; according to Naviance data, it is as selective as a “middle-Ivy,” i.e. Columbia or Dartmouth.</p>
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And Harvard could have done that to the baby Ivies back in the early 1900s, and to Stanford a few decades back as well.</p>
<p>I’m an HTML n00b, so: “If I am ‘unintelligent’ and ‘illiterate’ and you were rejected at the school I currently attend, then what does that make you???”</p>
<p>Unlucky*. For this insult to make any sense at all, the admissions committee would literally have to put our applications side-by-side, say to themselves, “well, we only have one spot left,” and proceed to choose between us. Obviously, that’s not even close to the truth. Different admissions officers read our applications (I’m assuming this, given your prejudice toward the South) at different points in the admissions process (I literally applied on the last day), and therefore our relative results are largely irrelevant, due to the huge number of variables involved, and you know that.</p>
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<li>Don’t read into this word too much. By “unlucky,” I do NOT mean that I’d rather be someplace else. FWIW, I am currently 100% satisfied with Duke in every possible way. If I had a time machine and somehow got offers from H, Y, and P, I’d turn all 3 (barring a huge financial difference), based on my experience(s) at Duke. By “unlucky,” I’m merely treating admissions like a game, and like any game, luck is often involved.</li>
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<p>I won’t comment further on your desperate need to get laid, but suffice it to say that I’m also 100% confident that people at my school, on average, have much more fun and are much more socially competent than people at yours.</p>