<p>That's basically my question. I'm from New York. Will it make my chances harder, easier or the same to get into UMichigan?</p>
<p>that depends; do you go to a high school that has sent ALOT of kids to UMich (think Long Island/Westchester)??..if yes, look at your Naviance…it will give you a good idea…</p>
<p>if, however, you go to a HS that has traditionally not had a good experience with UMich admissions, you will be deferred in the fall, and then made to wait until almost May to be waitlisted…</p>
<p>There are OOS people on the Umich thread with 4.0 UW GPA’s and 34 ACT that were deferred and then waitlisted…</p>
<p>I’m not sure how many students from my school go to UMichigan. I live in Westchester, and my school is ranked around 50 in the country on usnews.com (not sure how high exactly).</p>
<p>well, then you have some research to do…go to your guidance office and findout how admissions to UMich has been this past couple of years, stats needed to be accepted etc…</p>
<p>So I went on Naviance, and only 2 people were outright rejected, and then only a few, maybe 5 were deferred then rejected from early action. There were 2 people wait-listed and then a whole bunch, too many to count, that were accepted. Does this mean that I have a better chance coming from my school?</p>
<p>If your GPA falls into the accepted category I would say “yes”…is your naviance weighted GPA or unweighted?</p>
<p>if weighted and you fall into the “accepted” category you should be ok for EA as long as your SAT/ACT is not abysmal…</p>
<p>generally its harder for OOS than IS.</p>
<p>you can just look at the acceptance rate last year</p>
<p>I think it was like 12% Int, 30something% OOS, and about 50$ IS</p>
<p>it’s unweighted. My school’s average accepted unweighted GPA from 2008-2010 is 3.7 and average SAT is 2107. Since Michigan doesn’t include freshman year, my GPA not including freshman year is 3.7 and I have a 2150 on the SAT.</p>
<p>giatns, your school is obviously known to Michigan, so your credentials are solid. However, keep in mind that this year, Michigan experienced a 23% increase in applicants and will experience a similar surge next year. This will make admission into Michigan much tougher next year that it was last year. As it stands, I would say match, but next year, probably a reach.</p>
<p>To see admissions statistics by HS, see the following:</p>
<p>[The</a> Michigan Daily](<a href=“http://data.michigandaily.com/admit]The”>http://data.michigandaily.com/admit)</p>
<p>Also, see the following article about how 16% of all student come from the same 20 HS’s:</p>
<p>[Feeding</a> the ‘U’: Why 16 percent of the student body comes from the same 20 high schools | The Michigan Daily](<a href=“http://www.michigandaily.com/content/feeder-schools]Feeding”>Feeding the 'U': Why 16 percent of the student body comes from the same 20 high schools)</p>
<p>There seems to be no rhyme or reason with michigan. My son got in and is going … We live up in Dutchess County, NY. Only a few people every applied from his high school over the last 5 years… but all got in. His stats were good… but not exceptional… so I am not sure why he got in.</p>
<p>m1817: great find; exactly why I told the OP to check how his HS has done in the past…</p>
<p>some of the OOS HS’s in NY state have so many acceptances to UMich that, basically, all a kid has to do is have a pulse to be admitted…we know kids from Jericho that are straight “B” students attending; it’s treated as a safety for most…</p>
<p>I suspect the most important criterion for out-of-state prospects is the FAFSA number (and likewise I think not filling out the FAFSA is the best option if possible), where as the most important criteria for instate prospects are GPA and ACT score.</p>
<p>I also want to mention that I was at the UMEC Townhall Meeting (that thing that all you CoE kids get emails constantly about) with the Provost and he directly contradicted this statement in the daily:</p>
<p>“The University aims to keep a two-thirds, one-third ratio between in-state and out-of-state students, respectively. And while that one third of out-of-state students makes up a minority on campus, the population of students from around the world is even smaller.”</p>
<p>His claim that it has simply just been coincidence that the university is 1/3 out-of-state/international and 2/3 instate, and that they just try to make sure that the last admitted out-of-state student and the last admitted instate student are equally qualified.</p>
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I doubt it. That would requite too much manpower to be practical for Michigan. Besides, this is a moot point for EA applicants. If you have the stats, your best bet is to apply early, preferrably before the EA deadline.</p>
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<p>********? I would say so</p>
<p>Historically, it was harder for OOS students than it was for international or IS students. In recent years, the international applicant pool has grown so large, that it is now hardest if you are international. This year’s admit rate for international students was approximately 11%.</p>
<p>This said, I think with the joining of the Common Application, the OOS applicant pool is going to grow as rapidely as the international applicant pool and both will far exceed the increase in the number of in-state applicants. I would not be surprised if the admit rate for international students dropped below 10% next year and the admit rate for OOS students dropped below 25%.</p>
<p>I would think swithcing to the common application had little impact on the number of IS applications so most of the additional applications should be coming from OOS. If the ratio of IS to OOS remains the same then the acceptance rate for OOS will go down faster than IS. Questions remain as to the effect on yield.</p>
<p>Agree, yield this year will be important. It’s “easy” to apply, not as easy to get accepted and not so easy to pay the tab for many OSS.</p>
<p>Exactly, I don’t think the acceptance rates will drop as fast as mentioned as the yields will fall. Get accepted to 3 schools, accept 1, personal yield 33%; get accepted to 6; personal yield 16.5%. Therefore, a sheer greater number will need to be accepted to get the number to matriculate needed. There will be some drop in acceptance rate; just not as much as expected.</p>
<p>wayneandgarth, the yield will not drop that much as a result of joining the Common App. Michigan’s yield typically hovers around 45%. With the common app, I see it dropping to 40% at the worse. By the way, this phenonema is not restricted to Michigan. Chicago’s acceptance rate always hovered at around 40%. Since joining the Common Appl 5 years ago, its acceptance rate dropped from 40% to 15%. </p>
<p>Michigan’s acceptance rate will not drop to 15%, but it will probably drop to 25% in the next 5 years.</p>