<p>...so much for learning a second language for the love of learning.</p>
<p>It's amazing. Just a while ago there was a thread talking about how people did things only to impress admissions people and how they hated that idea, and here's a thread showing how people will go to no end to impress admissions people. :confused:</p>
<p>What??
You're contradicting yourself, do u know that?
What u just stated is the two sides of the same coin...the two opposite viewpoints of the same issue...of course there will be people who will do it just for resume-boosting..and of course there will be others who will do it cuz they love learning....the most appropriate term that could be coined would be what colleges call "intellectual curiosity", which is something they look for as a key element of a successful student and applicant...</p>
<p>I hear they are making AP korean now. But it will be available after I graduate. Korean is an easy 800 for any native speaker too.</p>
<p>im still wondering why this thread isnt in the SAT Subject Tests forum.</p>
<p>debat_addict> how did I contradict myself? I said that I thought it was ironic that right after there was a thread that basically bashed people who did things to impress Adcoms, there are people discussing doing things to impress adcoms.
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of course there will be people who will do it just for resume-boosting..and of course there will be others who will do it cuz they love learning....the most appropriate term that could be coined would be what colleges call "intellectual curiosity", which is something they look for as a key element of a successful student and applicant...
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did I say anything to the contrary?</p>
<p>you said "just a while ago this thread was this and this" and "here's a thread showing that and that", plus the :confused: (confused) at the end.....it's clearly as if you state that the thread has digressed from the original topic....</p>
<p>the other point, the one that u quoted, was an addition...an extra point to the thread</p>
<p>I'm Korean and I will not take the SAT II Korean unless I am really desperate. I hate the people that go to Korean school to get "foreign" language credit, and I would seem like a hypocrite for exploiting the same system for my benefit.</p>
<p>So, wait.... No more AP Chinese? It figures, I guess. You wouldn't think that someone with little prior knowledge would take AP Chinese. Besides, I know of very little schools that offer any Chinese classes.</p>
<p>no. the 'this' that you speak of is the same as the 'that' that you speak of. </p>
<p>"how people did things only to impress admissions people" is what you changed to "this."</p>
<p>"showing how people will go to no end to impress admissions people" is what you changed to "that."</p>
<p>* to me * those are the same thing.</p>
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it's clearly as if you state that the thread has digressed from the original topic....
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this must be where we disagree. That wasn't the intent of my original comment. The point of what I was *trying<a href="trying%20since%20it's%20obvious%20I%20didn't%20get%20it%20across%20clearly">/i</a> is that people need to quit caring about how the test affects your admissions. I compared it to a former thread in which people talked about how they thought padding a application for admissions for bad, and it seemed to me as if people here wanted an easy way to pad their application (or were jealous of other people who had an easy way to pad their application)
The test shows your ability to understand a language, and if somebody understands the language (whether it's their original language or otherwise), they deserve a good score</p>
<p>Sorry to add in this random comment but this post really stuck out for me...</p>
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and my haitian friends really wanted to take french to get 100 and their parents didn't care
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<p>You really don't know a lot about the creole language. It has some French and Spanish vocabulary with African dialects... very few of it is actually related to French.
I grew up in a creole-speaking household (I didn't really absorb the language but my sisters did) and it really doesn't help in French. If anything, it hurts you because the grammar (which is REALLLY big in French) is completely different and there are a lot of false cognates. It might help you on a random word or two but if these Haitian kids "are getting hundreds" it's because they're doing it on their own.</p>
<p>I know s/one who took chinese at the nearby university and got easy A's based on 6.0 scale, I think it was even easier than AP</p>
<p>I don't get how it's viewed as cheap or cheating or whatever.</p>
<p>To be competent in two languages is a pretty damn good accomplishment. The purpose of the test is to test whether a person is educated in his respective language or not. Saying he/she has an unfair advantage is pretty ridiculous. Most of the Chinese kids I know either were born in China and moved to the US, thus having to learn English in ESL, or were born in the US and had to go to Chinese school to learn Chinese.</p>
<p>It takes a lot to be fluent in two languages and remain fluent throughout the years. I mean, 2 years after moving to Canada and I utterly forgot Japanese. Class or not, if you don't constantly speak, think, or stay exposed to it, you will easily forget.</p>
<p>i say collegeboard is to blame!!
they are the ones that set up the curves!</p>
<p>please don't blame us native speakers...
we aren't complaining how people who are born here have x years more experience in English and thus make the CR and writing harder for us.</p>
<p>For many of us, English is our second language . even so we have to use our second language to get into college. how would you feel if you have to use your second language to compete with people that learned it as their first language?
if we can't score as high on the SAT 1
might as well get credit for SAT 2</p>
<p>and don't say we don't do worse in SAT 1 just cuz we study more to get the same score... if you studies as hard as we have, 800 in Chinese is definitely not impossible.</p>