<p>This thread is making me crave a doughnut.
Clearly, I’m weak and should be lynched.</p>
<p>Lol, CLEARLY! We’re all slaves to our whims, can’t control ourselves for one second!</p>
<p>…Now I want ice cream. Dammit. ;-)</p>
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<p>That’s not quite what bulking and cutting is. If it was 50 pounds in each direction, okay, but the idea behind it is that when bulking for muscle you do gain some fat. The cutting removes that fat. It’s more of a % body fat issue than a pure weight issue. It can be less than 5 pounds in each direction.</p>
<p>Okay, I can understand that, but the way Muscle is giving advice makes it sound like his best advice is based on a diet of fluctuating weight, purely based on short-term goals rather than long-term healthy eating habits. Again, most people’s weight loss is NOT based on bulking/cutting, but rather just maintaining a weight & appearance in the long term.</p>
<p>Also, in regards to my comment on not making foods off-limits, I’m totally NOT saying that you can eat tons of “bad” food any time you want. I’m saying that, if you budget your calories and eat sensibly most of the time, a little indulgence is GOOD. Remember how hard it was to give up the sweets? If you exercise a touch of self-control, you can have small portions of those things; I don’t think it makes you unhealthy if you have them occasionally. My sister is easily the healthiest person I know (not an ounce of fat on her, eats a high-vegetable, low-fat, no-sugar, low-sodium diet, runs 10 miles a day) and even SHE occasionally indulges on something slathered in BBQ sauce or ice cream!</p>
<p>embord doesn’t seem to understand what bulking/cutting is all about.</p>
<p>if you are only looking to eat healthy foods and not gain/lose weight, I suggest vegetables, meat, nuts, a little dairy now and then, water, and vegetables. You need those to be optimally healthy and anything else is up to you.</p>
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<p>Brussel Sprouts- recent addition
Chicken (marinated with paprika/chili powder/cayenne/olive oil or cumin/raw garlic/thyme etc)
Hard boiled/scrambled eggs
Cashews or almonds
Asparagus w/ salt
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<p>Darko, I just acknowledged that I don’t understand. That’s my point: how many people who see this thread (looking to eat healthy at school) are interested in bulking/cutting, or even know what it is? If this was originally meant to be a post specifically for those interested in that sort of weight loss/muscle gain, then I clearly misunderstood. I wanted to address Muscle7’s somewhat misleading info (I get the gist of it now, but I didn’t originally. Plenty of others could’ve made the same mistake.) to clear it up for other people, and also offer my own opinion of a superior weight-loss technique. I reiterate, my OPINION.</p>
<p>Thanks for the food ideas, though, those are all great options.</p>
<p>If you’re seriously interested in being healthy, losing weight while keeping muscle (cutting) is probably smarter and faster than just getting smaller. And you’re not going to lose weight if you don’t cut (eat less calories)</p>
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<p>I honestly can’t believe how stupid you are. I wasn’t telling other people to cut out anything. I was actually telling them that if they’re only concerned with avoiding fat gain to eat whatever they want, as long as they paid attention to calories. You can’t seriously be this dense. Nowhere did I tell anyone to do what I do. I actually made a point to say that losing fat while sparing muscle is very complicated, which is why my diet is so severe.</p>
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<p>That’s essentially what I was telling people in this thread to do, since I realize that people want to enjoy what they eat. Seriously, learn to read.</p>
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<p>■■■■, this just keeps getting better and better. Maybe your next post will be even stupider, with even less understanding of what I’ve said in this thread.</p>
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<p>Again, I never told people to bulk or cut, I was just explaining what I do and how I do it. I never told people to cut out any foods; all of my posts suggested the opposite and that they should just limit calories. But keep posting, this is funny (although sad at the same time).</p>
<p>WOW, conceited much? YOU ARE CORRECT, I DON’T UNDERSTAND. THAT’S WHAT I JUST SAID. How about you try EXPLAINING why the **** you’re talking about bulking/cutting on this thread then? Yes, I read your posts about calorie counting and everything; you clearly haven’t read MY posts either, since I CLEARLY advocate calorie-counting and PORTION CONTROL. The discussion then morphed into you and others going on and on about cutting out stuff; MY RESPONSE WAS TO THAT.</p>
<p>And really, the main reason I’ve kept replying to this thread was because of your ***hole attitude. Yeah, you tell people to do what’s right for them, but you CLEARLY don’t think it’s as effective or smart as your plan!</p>
<p>This is PSYCHOTIC: we’re both saying the SAME THINGS, but apparently not hearing each other. And with that, I excuse myself. I’m done trying to talk to someone who responds with name-calling and *****iness instead of trying to explain things to people!</p>
<p>People are worrying too much about the little things. The big picture is what matters. </p>
<p>Eating a donut and a regular coke one day for breakfast will have little to no effect on your body composition, that is it will not make you gain weight. What will make you gain weight is eating a donut and a coke everyday for breakfast and this causes your calories to go over your maintenance, which is usually anywhere between 1500-3000cal/day depending on your sex and activity level. </p>
<p>Everyone is saying the same thing about portion control and whatnot. No reason to attack each other. Muscle7 was just going more in depth since bodybuilders are more aware of calorie counting than the vast majority of the U.S. If people were aware of calories and fat, they would not eat at KFC and McDonalds for lunch. </p>
<p>Diets are nothing special. Weight watchers uses a point system to determine the value of different foods and you add up your points throughout the day… this is another way of eating low calorie foods (weight-watchers approved) and becoming aware of what you are eating. Jenny Craig does all the thinking for you by giving you prepared meals to eat. Atkins diet tells us to limit carbs, which helps people lose weight and feel better about their bodies since carbs can give people a bloated feeling, and most carbs are not healthy (pizza, processed breads/muffins, sugar cereals).</p>
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<p>If you understood that I was telling other people to merely count calories, then why did you even question my posts? Here, read this:</p>
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<p>What kind of diet was I advocating that only helps bodybuilders? Counting calories? lol. Again, I never told anyone else to do what I do. I never said that you weren’t advocating calorie-counting, either. I was under the impression that you thought I suggested cutting out “unhealthy” food. Again, if you understood my posts, there’s no argument between us. Whether you know what cutting and bulking is or not, it doesn’t matter. I shouldn’t have to explain it since I never told anyone else to do it.</p>
<p>And yeah, I’m an ***hole, especially when talking to idiots.</p>
<p>Lastly, I don’t think that my plan is better. That doesn’t even make sense. If someone only wants to maintain their bodyfat, or even lower it without worrying about muscle loss, it wouldn’t make sense to do my “plan.” But if you’re trying to drop bodyfat while keeping muscle and are eating twinkies; then yeah, my plan is better.</p>
<p>I tried to eat really healthy freshmen year and worked out 6 days a week (combination of cardio and weight lifting) only drank water and ate dessert maybe once per week. I still went from 140 at the beginning of the year to 152ish at the end. What a lot of people, aka me, forget is portion control. Once you fill up your plate at the beginning of the meal, don’t go back for seconds (or thirds and fourths). Make sure you are eating a lot of protein and fiber (from nuts, peanut butter, whole grains, lean meats, beans, chick peas) because both of those nutrients will help keep you full. Having small meals of about 300-400 calories throughout the day helps keep your metabolism going (I work in a food and nutrition research lab where we had people hooked up to a metabolic cart and were able to see how many calories they burned while resting. They came in fasted and were burning about 1100, but after they had breakfast it jumped to 1700 on average.)
Drink lots of water because sometimes people are dehydrated and mistake it for hunger, consuming unnecessary calories. Watch out for vending machines and late night study “snacks” (pizza and ice cream). Don’t keep too many snacks in your room. Maybe just a few in case you get really hungry (I’m obsessed with instant oatmeal: heat up water and mix it and you have a meal! Kashi makes really good instant oatmeal that has 5 g of fiber and 7 g of protein to help you feel full.)
If you are still gaining weight, keep a log of everything you eat to eliminate unnecessary calories. And fyi, alcohol has 7 calories per gram. A can of beer usually has around 150 calories (as does a shot of vodka or rum or whatever). Any less calories and its probably watered down.
McDonalds is not healthy. I love how they have those apple pieces, cut the peel off (that is the most nutritious part) and then give you caramel dipping sauce with it. Plus ranch dressing is super creamy and fattening, and that is what most people put on there salads. Salad doesn’t always equal healthy. Stick to olive oil or balsamic dressing, and don’t drown your salad in dressing.
Heh, I wrote a lot. Guess that is what happens when you are a Dietetic major : )</p>
<p>lol, Im generaly a health freak, and go to the gym 4x a week and do cardio 2 a week, but right now I’m on holiday staying with my friend who has the most unhealthy lifestyle and it’s just crazy… I swear, Im gonna have lost 15lbs by the time I leave (in 12 days) and that’s not good because I really don’t have much fat to lose lol.</p>
<p>Evem though I bought me whey protein and a ****load of nuts and PB I still can’t live healthily since theres no gym nearby and all the restaurants nearby are junkfood. Can’t wait till I get to college and I can eat healthy again lol. I think it’ll take like 2 months getting back to where I was though -.-</p>
<p>omg this thread has become so hostile.</p>
<p>i like salmon and spinach (:</p>
<p>Because people are ****-waving about who knows more about nutrition and exercise. Don’t listen to any of them; will power, get you some. Eat sensible, don’t yoyo, don’t bulk/cut/tone/defibrillate or whatever fancy plan people tell you to, and stop eating pizza, hamburgers, and soda for every meal! There, that was easy.</p>
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<p>You worry about your makeup and clothing styles and we’ll worry about cutting and …defibrillators.</p>
<p>yikes.</p>
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<p>To gain muscle, it’s necessary to lose weight (cut) and gain in back as muscle (bulk). </p>
<p>If you don’t want to get too into it, just exercise regularly, don’t eat junk food, and limit your calorie intake.</p>
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