<p>How are Econ 101 & 102 at U of M? I'm guessing they're pretty large classes, but how is the coursework? Are they generally easy or hard classes?</p>
<p>I'm currently taking microecon at the local community college, but I kinda want to drop it. The teacher basically reads out of the textbook... </p>
<p>Should I take the community college class just so I can get credit for it to place out of Econ 101, or should I wait to take it at U of M because the classes there go into more depth?</p>
<p>Econ 101 is fine. Gerson and Malone are good instructors.</p>
<p>I found Econ 102 to be extremely hard, and so did the majority of my class. I think the professor has a lot to do with the difficulty of the class. My advice would be to avoid Miles Kimball at all costs. See for yourself: <a href=“http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=535979[/url]”>Miles Kimball at University of Michigan | Rate My Professors;
<p>Thank for the reply… so would you advise taking a community college class for credit to get out of that class (and avoid negative effects on the GPA), or should I take it because I’ll learn more in depth stuff in that class that I’ll need for future Econ classes at U of M?</p>
<p>i took AP econ (both macro and micro) in high school and retook them in college to pad my gpa. I found that econ 101 and econ 102 were less in depth than econ in high school, and the teaching was a joke compared to my high school’s teaching.</p>
<p>Why don’t you just go back to high school then?</p>
<p>bearcats, how is IOE or Instead of Engineering or In and Out easy (pun intended) treating you?</p>
<p>Funny (true story): I meet a Michigan alum who works for Capital One Financial and the first thing he told me was, “I was in IOE. You know, In and Out Easy” (while laughing) at himself. I was like OOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKkk.</p>
<p>i dont know. Anyway nothing in engineering is as easy as Ross, so i guess it’s okay. (and I am qualified to make this statement as I am in EGL so I take classes of both school, not to mention I did all my upper level non-IOE tech elective in accounting)</p>
<p>I dont know what triggered this but I was commenting on econ, which every bit of my comment is true. I had a **** poor prof (Sedo) in a classroom of 300 kids, with a German GSI who barely speak english basically gave us the quiz everytime at the beginning and let us leave, and never taught a thing (my beef isnt with the big class-size, which is obviously negative, but expected when i chose michigan over other privates. But I expected that the teaching staff would at least care, especially the GSI who obviously doesnt give a dam). That compared with my classroom of 12 kids with an econ teacher who used to be a harvard associate professor in high school is a culture shock for me as a first year student last year (and I was wondering two things 1. Where did my tuition money go? 2. Would I be have been better off going with better schools than going with fit when i chose my college)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=10263[/url]”>Stanley Sedo at University of Michigan | Rate My Professors;
<p>Ross is the tougher to get into by far.</p>
<p>To the thread starter: I don’t think going in depth really matters. The basic concepts are the same and you don’t need to know anything more as you progress further into the ECON classes (the higher level classes will teach you what you need to know).</p>
<p>^ True. And Ross >>> School of Engineering. Better classes, better building, better access to internships/jobs, etc. Also, hotter girls. Why the hell would you torture yourself on North campus taking harder courses (material wise) only to get the same or less paying jobs?</p>
<p>Bearcats, I think you made the wrong choice by choosing IOE. Ross was the way to go. No one cares if you took harder classes. Employers look for well rounded kids, which Ross has more of.</p>
<p>I am doing financial engineering at masters level. IOE sets me up better with the stocastic crap and probability ********, and the quant background. Notice financial engineering classes at U of M are offered by the IOE grad school. It is hard to get into financial engineering from BBA than from engineering/hard science. Btw EGL > Ross. Best of both worlds, being held by the joint institute of Ross and COE (Tauber).</p>
<p>I am also more interested in getting into a top quant prop firm than BB trading, the likes of Jane Street and Susquehanna, Citadel, which hire their bulk from engineering/hard science majors. There are many reasons to choose COE over Ross even for an aspiring finance person.</p>
<p>the only mistake i made was choosing Michigan over wharton, because i was told to choose based on fit. choosing college based on fit is the biggest joke.</p>
<p>Your life must suck.</p>
<p>Agree. Why don’t you drop out? Or transfer to Wharton and take p()ss easy business courses? I mean, there’s a difference between Ross, EGL and Wharton - employers will be like “WHOA you went to Wharton?! That’s definitely better than Ross and EGL! You must be smarter than those kids! Yaayyy I’m 'gonna make record profits this year because of you”.</p>
<p>“Agree. Why don’t you drop out? Or transfer to Wharton and take p()ss easy business courses?”
In an ideal world that guarantees my admissions second time around to wharton and most of my credits transfer, yea… I would do that in a heart beat. I would even give up my financial engineering grad school plan, and the chance to get into quant trading for the Wharton name that alone could get you ahead in your career. </p>
<p>“WHOA you went to Wharton?! That’s definitely better than Ross and EGL!”
You might be sarcastic, but it’s true. There are many boutiques that recruit exclusively at wharton year in year out.</p>
<p>Sounds like you need a girlfriend.</p>
<p>No, I think a boyfriend might do it for him.</p>
<p>idk what to do… the community college class is a joke. i could probably learn better just by reading the stuff myself. but i don’t want to waste money to take a giant lecture class at U of M if, as bearcats said, the teaching really is a joke. idk, but i might take it anyway just to pad my gpa… </p>
<p>ugh is there really any advantage to majoring in econ instead of business in Ross? i’m not into business at all… i’m more into theory than practice of econ.</p>
<p>Sounds like Ross is teaching you well. those make some good arguments. </p>
<p>“It sounds like you need a girlfriend. No, I think a boyfriend might do it for you, because you won’t raise my bonus!!!”</p>
<p>“ugh is there really any advantage to majoring in econ instead of business in Ross? i’m not into business at all… i’m more into theory than practice of econ.”</p>
<p>You need to look into graduate econ after your undergrad years, which is a completely different animal than undergrad econ, so different that a Phd in econ takes the same timeframe for an econ undergrad and a non-econ undergrad. You would need at least a master to work as an economist.</p>