<p>So despite studying like crazy for Econ 102, I just found out that I earned a C+ overall in the course... This is a huge hit on my GPA and I'm pretty sure I have no chance of getting into Ross anymore.</p>
<p>Will Ross consider the fact that I took a challenging course that I technically didn't have to take as a freshman?</p>
<p>if you cant get an A in econ 102, you are not ross material. 101 and 102 are some of the easiest classes in non basket-weaving majors (econ is only semi-basket weaving).</p>
<p>Though the way he worded it isn’t exactly the best way he could have, bearcats’ sentiment is correct. If you “studied like crazy” in Econ 102 and still ended up with a C+, you would struggle greatly in Ross and most likely for the remainder of an Econ major.</p>
<p>To answer your question, no. Ross might-have-possibly-somewhat-kind-of overlooked a poor grade in a course like chemistry or something else irrelevant to business like an upper level anthropology course, but Econ 102 is directly related to what you’d be studying in Ross, and it’s the grade they’ll pay the most attention to.</p>
<p>tell it like it is is the best way.
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<p>I got a B- is EECS 280. And I think that killed my Ross Chances. But I dunno, maybe ECON 102 is harder/more work than EECS 280.</p>
<p>I know plenty of Ross Students who took 102 after they got in and got B-'s and lower… so I’m pretty sure it’s not uncommon for Ross Kids to do poorly.</p>
<p>Keep telling yourself that. We all lie to ourselves. It makes us feel better, but it doesn’t help.
Look, you basically placed significantly below average (low B, high B-) in one of the easiest non basket-weaving classes taken by the general LSA population (which on average is somewhat mediocre), in a subject that is the foundation of all business topics.
The above are facts and how they will be perceived by ross admissions is anyone’s guess. My money is on “probably not so well”.</p>
<p>also, I would be pretty worried if you intend on majoring in econ or any quantitative major (assuming you don’t get into ross) if you “studied like crazy” and still got a C+ in econ 102. Just FYI.</p>
<p>I don’t know your chances but I know that some of the people here don’t know how to motivate young people. Did you like econ? That’s the main question. Sometimes, you just need to get into a different intellectual groove to succeed in a subject. It can take time.</p>
<p>Anyway, only some of b. school is like econ. Marketing is not. HR is not. Management isn’t either.</p>
<p>If you really want to be in B. school you might consider transferring. Or you can take 20 credits at Ross while in LSA and then go into business with that or go to an MBA program later.</p>
<p>Don’t despair. Success comes with perseverance. You can do it.</p>
<p>I know a guy who got a C+ in econ - macro II, and later got into Columbia econ PhD.</p>
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<p>No. It’s not. 280 is far harder than 102. </p>
<p>And while bearcats is being a dick, he’s right. Seriously, if a C+ was the best you could do in Econ 102, you suck at school. Don’t let it get to you, but it’s extremely unlikely that you’re going to get in and even if you were to you probably wouldn’t do well at all if that 102 C+ is any indication. Come up with a new plan. Sorry dude.</p>
<p>I’m not sure I agree with all of you. I had many friends take 102 this semester and they were telling me that Stevenson deliberately made the tests impossible. The average for the second test was like a 50%… Something to keep in mind.</p>
<p>“I’m not sure I agree with all of you. I had many friends take 102 this semester and they were telling me that Stevenson deliberately made the tests impossible. The average for the second test was like a 50%… Something to keep in mind.”
And it doesn’t matter. The class is still curved based on department policy. Below average is below average.</p>
<p>and yes vladenschlutte, I am a dick. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.</p>
<p>But seriously, if you think telling it as it is is being a dick, I would definitely recommend reading the attached dalio principles. I don’t work at bridgewater, but guy is legendary.</p>
<p>Of course, we live in a sheltered, PC society where everyone is special, talented and is a winner. I apologize for speaking the truth. My bad. HEY OP YOU ARE ON A GREAT PATH. JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO AND YOU WILL DEFINITELY GET INTO ROSS. YOU GO BOY!</p>
<p>“Anyway, only some of b. school is like econ. Marketing is not. HR is not. Management isn’t either.”</p>
<p>Disagree. While certain concentrations of b school are more economics oriented, everything has economics as part of the foundation. I don’t pretend to know anything about marketing, but who are you going to spend more effort marketing to? Your elastic or inelastic customer base? Where do you get the best bang for your advertising buck? Well you think about the marginal utility of spending a dollar in each area and go with the max.
For HR, how much do you pay an employee? Well, you think about the labor supply/demand for the skill set. Everything in the business world builds on economic principles.</p>
<p>^To be fair that’s all 101. I think 101 applies a lot more to the Ross classes than 102 does, at least from what I could tell after one year in the bschool.</p>
<p>Where do you think macroeconomics come from? Its an aggregation of microeconomic phenomenon.
Why do people care about nonfarm payroll? Because it means at the micro level households are more likely to spend, which drives aggregate demand. And thats why we have s&p 1615 today. Actually who am i kidding, all credit goes to helicopter ben… Fundamentals be damned :)</p>
<p>Bearcats- First off, I never once tried to say that a C+ in 102 should in any way be excused. My point was that I know plenty of kids who are in Ross who don’t get A’s in Econ 101 and 102. I don’t know what kind of pedestal you’re sitting on, but I personally know of 6 kids who received B’s or less in Econ 101, got into Ross because they took other easier classes, and then got B’s in 102. The idea that no one who is in Ross will get a B in Econ is unthinkable. That being said, I know that my grade in the class sucked. It was a fairly competitive semester and I can assure you that the class has most likely gotten harder since you’ve taken it. In fact, I know this for sure because I wrote an honors paper with Stevenson this semester and he told me that they’ve made the class significantly harder than it was even just a year ago. Once again, I’m not trying to make an excuse for my grade. I’m just saying that you may not know as much about Ross Students as you think you do…</p>
<p>one of bearcats’ points was that the difficulty of the course doesn’t matter since it’s curved…</p>
<p>^I dont know how that’s so hard to comprehend…</p>
<p>bearcats, it must be a while since you were actually on campus, because you’re simply wrong regarding most of what you’ve said about Econ 102, not to mention you’re coming off incredibly elitist and rude (which is NOT the same as telling it like it is). Econ 102 is known on campus as being one of the most difficult courses in LSA, and I believe this past semester it was the #1 most-dropped class. It is also an incredibly competitive, cutthroat class because you have lots of motivated Ross applicants plus Ross sophomores who were already smart to get in in the first place. Combine that with a decently competitive curve and recently upgraded course difficulty (having just taken the class I can definitely attest to that), and it is undeniably up there as one of the most difficult courses on campus. While all of that doesn’t excuse a C+ because that obviously isn’t good, to out-and-out claim that this one singular grade immediately disqualifies someone from Ross material (or anything quantitative/economics-related) is just ridiculous.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I would definitely think about your future plans and where your strengths lie based on your subpar experience in 102, whether it be in Ross, economics, or elsewhere.</p>
<p>if you honestly think econ 102 is one of the most difficult courses in LSA then you have no idea what you’re talking about… the only reason courses like econ 102 and calc 2 have “bad” reputations is because they are introductory courses, which means a lot of dumb people take them. Those people don’t get exposed to courses that are much harder because they end up choosing different academic paths after failing introductory courses.</p>