<p>I probably wont get into McCombs, they focus too much on rank..</p>
<p>I think i have a good shot at LA Economics. Im confident in getting into Mays Business at Texas A&M</p>
<p>Which should i pick?</p>
<p>If you go to UT, and keep a GPA above 3.7ish for your first year, you can transfer into McCombs for your sophomore year. If you think you can maintain that GPA (and in your freshman year, most of the classes are all basic, so you'll do a lot of the same stuff anywhere you go) at UT, definitely go there and transfer into McCombs your sophomore year. Most, if not all your credits should transfer, so you won't lose any time either.</p>
<p>Inside the state of Texas, there is little difference between the BBAs from either school as far as career prospects go. If you WANT a BBA, then go to Texas A&M.</p>
<p>As far as entry-level business careers go, there is nothing you can do with an economics degree from UT-Austin that you cannot do with a BBA from A&M.</p>
<p>If you think you can internally transfer into McCombs, then go that route. I think you need to complete 30 semester hours in residence, including the core business classes, and have a high enough GPA to change majors to business. That's another option.</p>
<p>If you really want to go to UT-Austin instead of A&M, then go there as economics. You can get 85% of the same careers with the degree as you can with business majors PLUS I would say that an economics degree from UT-Austin is better than a BBA from the lower-tier schools such as Texas State and so forth.</p>
<p>Personally I have an economics degree from A&M and although I went to grad school right afterwards, I knew that I could have gotten a decent career right out of college with it. If you have a decent GPA with an economics degree, you can get the same entry-level positions as a finance major. I could've went to UT but I decided on A&M due to personal reasons and also I felt that going to UT for economics would not have opened more doors for me that weren't already open with an economics degree from A&M.</p>
<p>It's really a choice of what school you want to go to, not what major.</p>
<p>Another thing, if you get a BBA from A&M, you can go back to UT for a MBA later on if you're capable. So whatever path you choose you're not going to screw yourself over.</p>
<p>Im pretty sure I won't be able to do internal transfers, having fun has always been a priority over grades for me. </p>
<p>I applied to UT with Business as first major, but the average class rank of admitted students is like 2.6%, im ranked 10.6%. </p>
<p>I really despise A&M, the whole school spirit over there annoys me, but I'll go there if no other choice</p>
<p>Do you think me having prior investment experience will be a hook for me to get into UT mccombs? On my optional essay i wrote about how i was introduced to the stock market in 8th grade. The next two years i learned as much as i could by reading online, watching CNBC, and managing multiple mock portfolios until my junior year, in which i started my own online brokerage account. </p>
<p>Under the talents section of the applytexas app i made sure to note that I averaged 8% return per month</p>
<p>Who says you can't do both, Woswill? You can have fun and study hard for your classes at the same time. If you're already writing off the possibility of doing an internal transfer, you really need to reanalyze your life and decide what you want most. If you really, really want a BBA from UT, buckling down and studying a little more shouldn't be a problem for you.</p>
<p>Woswill, I didn't really care for the whole "Aggie cult" either when I was at A&M but I didn't let it bother me at all. You don't have to get into the traditions religiously; I sure didn't. The reason I went to A&M over UT was because A&M has a more close-knit, friendly campus. I didn't care so much about the "Aggie cult" at all.</p>
<p>I really do think you need to reanalyze your life before you continue with more questions. It seems like you either 1) Don't want to study as much as it takes to internally transfer to McCombs or 2) Rather get an economics degree from UT, even though you want a BBA, just because you can't stand A&M, even though it's a consideration. If you choose the latter, you're competing against BBA graduates from A&M for the same careers. Not that I ever had a problem with that but it's a consideration.</p>
<p>BTW, the kids at Mays are a bit different than the rest of the student body for the most part, for better or worse. You might actually like being a business student at A&M because it's a little different experience because of that. Part of the reason I didn't go into undergrad business there is because I didn't want to be around a bunch of kids from Houston (personal choice) but to me it sounds like you might like the environment at Mays.</p>
<p>You need to ask yourself what you really want and how much you're willing to get there. Doesn't sound like you even want a BBA from UT if you're not willing to work towards it.</p>
<p>Whats the level of difficulty for classes at McCombs? Are there grade quotas in class or anything like that (ie 20% get As 40% Bs etc)</p>
<p>In honors 50% get A's and 50% get Bs. In regular a debate coach who went there said that everybody either gets an A or B, but the level of work between an A or B is great.</p>
<p>I know that UT has grade quotas for some classes but I'm not sure about business classes.</p>
<p>Woswill, if you don't like A&M don't go there. Period. You can be quite successful with an econ degree from UT.</p>
<p>That really depends on what exactly he wants to do, Vector. If he wants some sort of accounting career, he would be better off going to A&M.</p>
<p>I prefer to work with the stock market</p>
<p>Realistically, a portfolio manager or analyst</p>
<p>All I'm saying is that if he truly doesn't like A&M, he shouldn't be considering it. If he feels that he could be happy at A&M then it's certainly a viable option.</p>
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<p>I truly didn't like UT-Austin either but it was my second-choice school and I came close to going there. I think the OP needs to decide what he wants to do based on the types of careers that he wants, not so much which school, because he's picking between different majors at different schools.</p>
<p>I would go with UT-Austin.</p>
<p>Why don't you just wait and see if you get into McCombs.</p>
<p>Also, if you go with UT Econ, you can probably transfer into McCombs for the next year.</p>
<p>Which degree would be more beneficial in getting a job dealing with stocks?</p>
<p>UT Econ or TAMU Biz</p>
<p>With stocks? </p>
<p>My guess is that you want to be a finance major (if you choose business over econ). UT is ranked 6th in undergraduate finance.</p>
<p>"Inside the state of Texas, there is little difference between the BBAs from either school as far as career prospects go. If you WANT a BBA, then go to Texas A&M.</p>
<p>As far as entry-level business careers go, there is nothing you can do with an economics degree from UT-Austin that you cannot do with a BBA from A&M.</p>
<p>If you think you can internally transfer into McCombs, then go that route. I think you need to complete 30 semester hours in residence, including the core business classes, and have a high enough GPA to change majors to business. That's another option.</p>
<p>If you really want to go to UT-Austin instead of A&M, then go there as economics. You can get 85% of the same careers with the degree as you can with business majors PLUS I would say that an economics degree from UT-Austin is better than a BBA from the lower-tier schools such as Texas State and so forth.</p>
<p>Personally I have an economics degree from A&M and although I went to grad school right afterwards, I knew that I could have gotten a decent career right out of college with it. If you have a decent GPA with an economics degree, you can get the same entry-level positions as a finance major. I could've went to UT but I decided on A&M due to personal reasons and also I felt that going to UT for economics would not have opened more doors for me that weren't already open with an economics degree from A&M.</p>
<p>It's really a choice of what school you want to go to, not what major."</p>
<p>Do you know what you're talking about? This is 100% false.</p>
<p>I assume that the OP wants to go into finance. First and foremost, UT is a T10 Undergraduate school for Finance and its Business Honors Program carries the same respect, according to some, as a Wharton degree. Not only do more finance companies come to recruit at UT (Blackstone, Greenhill, Goldman Sachs, and just about every other large financial institution), most of these companies do not even step foot at TAMU. Even for Texas- most banks and trading floors are overwhelmingly Longhorns. Not to say that TAMU isn't recruited by financial companies, it just is not recruited, even for the state of Texas, as on the level of UT Austin. Many of the entry-level positions at UT Austin simply can not be found at TAMU. Moreover, TAMU's business school is certainly not as respected as UT's business school.</p>
<p>The reason that business majors at UT Austin have such great career opportunities is because of their career center. I believe in the past several years, their career center has been heralded as one of the Top 5 undergraduate career centers in the nation. The Ford Career Center, as they call it, is only availiable to UT BUSINESS majors, and not economics majors. In my opinion, economics majors cannot get "85% of the same job as business majors". In fact, an economics degree from UT Austin can get <25% of the jobs the same business major can get. </p>
<p>Furthermore, you need 24 credit hours in residence to transfer into McCombs. The average GPA for internal transfers was 3.5 or so, which is easily attainable in liberal arts courses.</p>
<p>Transferring into McCombs is fairly easy- I would go this route, provided that you can get into UT Austin. </p>
<p>To answer some of the other questions here:</p>
<p>"Do you think me having prior investment experience will be a hook for me to get into UT mccombs? On my optional essay i wrote about how i was introduced to the stock market in 8th grade. The next two years i learned as much as i could by reading online, watching CNBC, and managing multiple mock portfolios until my junior year, in which i started my own online brokerage account."
- No this will not help you. I know for a fact that UT heavily weighs class rank and SAT score in admissions, even when dealing with minority applicants. </p>
<p>"Whats the level of difficulty for classes at McCombs? Are there grade quotas in class or anything like that (ie 20% get As 40% Bs etc)"
- I believe that the average graduating GPA, depending on semester of graduation, is a 3.5, more or less so, for all business students only.
The avg. graduating GPA for Business Honors students is a 3.8.
Take from this what you will.</p>
<p>"Which degree would be more beneficial in getting a job dealing with stocks?"
- If you really don't think that you will get into McCombs, which I am sure you can, Mays might be the better choice here, as opposed to UT Economics. However, I have always believed that if you are good, people will find you, regardless of where you are. That being said, go where you feel that you fit and where you feel you are most comfortable.</p>
<p>Overall- my advice for the OP- go to UT Austin and transfer into the Business Honors Program your sophomore year. If you can't get into that, then just transfer into McCombs. Keep your GPA above a 3.7 and you will be a shoe-in.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA!</p>
<p>Considering that I considered both schools and I work in Texas along people who have BBAs and Econs degrees from both schools, YES, I know what I'm talking about. I also imagine that you are still in school whereas I've been out in the real world for years.</p>
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<p>So what does this have to do with the economics department at UT-Austin? Economics is in the liberal arts department, not the business school. The OP is asking about the economics department because he isn't sure he can go to McCombs.</p>
<p>Sorry, I don't buy into the "carries the same respect as a Wharton degree." No doubt that Honors at McCombs carries a lot of weight, but Wharton is in a class all by it's own.</p>
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Not only do more finance companies come to recruit at UT (Blackstone, Greenhill, Goldman Sachs, and just about every other large financial institution), most of these companies do not even step foot at TAMU. Even for Texas- most banks and trading floors are overwhelmingly Longhorns. Not to say that TAMU isn't recruited by financial companies, it just is not recruited, even for the state of Texas, as on the level of UT Austin.
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<p>Oh really, then how come when I go through resumes at work it's always UT OR A&M BBA graduates, hmm? Then how come I meet just as many people with BBAs from A&M in my field (RE development) as I do people with BBAs from UT? I've met just as many well-off A&M business graduates as I have UT business graduates.</p>
<p>If you have the motivation and initiative for success, it's not really going to matter which school you go to because it's all up to you. If you expect that your degree is going to do all the work for you, you won't get very far.</p>
<p>If you're going to get a business job IN Texas, it doesn't really matter which school you go to. The alumni networks are even about the same size and there's enough mutural respect between the two schools that Longhorns hire Aggies and Aggies hire Longhorns. Hell, to externally transfer to either school the only difference (from the last time I checked) is that you need calculus at UT Austin. Otherwise you pretty much have to have the same GPA and mostly the same classes in order to get into either school as a transfer student.</p>
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<p>Outside the state this matters but within the state it really doesn't. For one thing, both schools are the same size population wise so the alumni networks are similar.</p>
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In my opinion, economics majors cannot get "85% of the same job as business majors". In fact, an economics degree from UT Austin can get <25% of the jobs the same business major can get.
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<p>From my first-hand EXPERIENCE (which greatly outweighs your opinion), yes, with an Economics degree, you can. Just go on Google and look up people who have bachelor's degrees in Economics from UT-Austin for example. A lot of them DO work in the banking and financial industries. I've even met a few of them. Just because companies are heavily recruiting from the finance department doesn't mean you can't have just as much success with an economics degree. Those companies recruit heavily from business because it's easier for them to compare the GPAs from several business schools and know who's a better candidate because business schools are more standardized. Economics is not quite so standardized so it's harder for them to know. Some economics departments are business heavy whereas others are not.</p>
<p>When companies recruit they are trying to fill up positions quickly; they don't really give a damn who you are personally. You can't use recruitment as a measure of long-term success.</p>
<p>The career center isn't meant to be a crutch, either; don't expect them to do all the work for you. If you have an economics degree from UT-Austin and you can't sell yourself enough to get a $50,000+ a year job, you've got problems bigger than what your major was.</p>
<p>The problem with the economics department from both schools is that the admission standards are pretty low compared to the business schools so economics catches a lot of students who didn't have the grades to get into the business school. Economics shouldn't be seen as a lesser degree because it's not; it's not a vocational degree at all. The Ivies don't even offer a business undergrad, only economics, so that should tell you something right there. It's a really good degree and I wish UT and A&M would raise their admission requirements for economics so that it attracts more people who WANT to study economics and not people who couldn't get into business.</p>
<p>If the OP has a stronger desire to get a business degree than to go to UT, then a business degree from A&M is a very smart move. It depends on whether he wants a particular major or to go to a particular school.</p>