Could I apply to both ED and EA to two or three different schools (i’d go to the school that I applied ED if I get accepted to all of em)
Would the schools find out that I applied to more than just their school?
i.e) ED to Duke, EA to Boston College and U of C
<p>You can but you HAVE to go to the ED school if accpeted and withdraw all other applications. So in your situation if accepted at Duke, BC and UofC, you must accept Duke's offer and withdraw BC and UofC.</p>
<p>Your HS will know how you applied and therein lies the problem of ED to more than one school. Are you forgetting that you need recs/records etc?? Your school counselor will not want to commit an unprofessional act by helping you to deceive.</p>
<p>There is an interesting sidenote on this. When my S. went to speak with Brown's college planner in the alumni office, she warned us it might be "illegal" to apply to an EA school at the same time as Brown ED. (We were not talking about single choice EA, but regular EA schools.) She urged us to check with Brown admissions.</p>
<p>We spoke with an admissions counselor who stated Brown does not want a student who applies ED to apply EA at the same time. We pressed him and asked if this was a "rule" or a "preference". He stated that it was not a rule but a STRONG preference. </p>
<p>Has anyone ever heard of this before?</p>
<p>I haven't. So I guess it's best to ask the indiviidual school</p>
<p>The ED schools offer it for a reason......they want to lock up the process with the least amount of "unknown" factor=yield. Some schools do have rules about ED and where else a student can apply. A strong preference and a rule are different things however. If you are applying to say UMich which is rolling and then Brown ED.......you would have to withdraw UMich when Brown accepts you. I think a factor in the "preference" is that many students don't read the rules for a particular school or understand them and colleges don't like the mess that ensues from uninformed applicants.</p>
<p>If the school has ED or single choice EA, you can not apply to other ED/EA schools.</p>
<p>If the school has EA that is not single choice, you can apply ED to one other school (only one sicne if you get into a school ED, you have to go there). However, remember that if you get into both your EA and ED college, you have to go to your ED one even if you prefer your EA one.</p>
<p>If you try to accept your EA one under those circumstances, it could choose to withdraw your acceptance if it learns that you had an ED acceptance (many colleges share lists of those accepted ED). It also could punish your school by not accepting other students -- and that punishment could go on for years. It also can express lots of anger at your GC, who then may take that out on you by not being helpful when it comes to other assistance you may need during senior year and after.</p>
<p>Stanford is my first-choice school and I want to apply early, but Im also interested in another school that requires I apply early there. Are there any exceptions to Stanfords single-choice restriction?
Yes. We recognize that some state universities and some special programs require you to apply early, so we have determined that you may apply early to Stanford and apply early to another school under the following conditions:</p>
<p>Any school, public or private, under a non-binding Rolling Admission option
Public colleges or universities under a non-binding Early Action program
Foreign colleges or universities on any application schedule
Schools whose early application deadlines are a requirement for consideration for special academic programs or scholarships only if the notification of admission occurs after January 1
Schools under an Interim Decision program only if the notification of admission occurs after January 1.</p>
<p>Public colleges or universities under a non-binding early action program.....</p>
<p>Why not private ones as well?</p>
<p>If a student applies to one school ED and the other non-binding EA, he/she will accept the ED even if the EA comes through. What would be the problem in this scenario?</p>
<p>Sounds like they are giving you one free safety....at a public with rolling. Stanford's policy is one reason that it is so difficult to reply to the questions posed on CC......the policy differs on ED/EA and any applicant needs to be familiar and very clear...it is easy to void yourself. How can any of us answer the general questions without knowing the school it is being asked of? We cannot. I just hope that folks will learn from reading CC that the policies are all over the place, they change and HS counselors are not always as up on the facts as one would like them to be. Be careful in reading is my advice.</p>
<p>I am still at a loss in terms of Brown. It is one thing to tell someone there is a rule. It is another to tell them there is a "strong preference". </p>
<p>The system as it's now set up with ED and EA (single action and non-binding) is both confusing and frustrating for the applicant. When you throw in another "preference", how does an applicant know what to do?</p>
<p>So you are applying to Brown as a legacy and you are applying ED? Are you planning your EA as your safety option? Why are you worried about a preference Brown has? Follow the rules and don't tell Brown of your EA....when Brown accepts you the process is over.</p>
<p>Yes, that's obviously a possibility, and the admin people must be aware that some people will choose that option. </p>
<p>In my S's case, the schools are "equally" ranked (at least in our heads). He literally cannot decide between them as his two top choices. He has not only visited both campus but spent several weeks studying at each in the summers. He feels he would be excited if either came through.... </p>
<p>Of course, having top choices and getting into top choices are two different things.</p>
<p>When brown says "strong preference" did they say whether if they caught someone doing both before the acceptance was out that they would reject, them or something? Basically what I'm asking was did the Brown person say their were any consequences to doing so?</p>
<p>I don't know how much of the class Brown seats out of ED but during my application cycle it was not as high as some schools. I remember feeling that ED to Brown was not as significant an advantage as some other places. Regarding the legacy: at some schools legacy is weighted more ONLY in ED so you might inquire about that. IF you son has no clear favorite then you have two factors to consider. No true preference means it doesn't matter which one he chooses ED as he will be happy at either school. What is the loss? If he wants to delay his decision then apply RD to both schools and continue the angst. Either you allow the adcoms to decide for him or not.</p>
<p>I think that's a good consideration- how big the advantage is. At UPenn you only get legacy benefits ED so it's worth it to do ED there. Are you sure he's equally happy at either? If that's so, ED at brown is good for hazmat's reason that he'll be happy regardless. However, if he would have any doubts, I'd wait it out till rd</p>
<p>Yes, I agree. He would have to be certain he'd be equally excited getting an acceptance packet from either school. At this point in time, he feels he would be. </p>
<p>The admin at Brown did not state that there would be any consequences involved to the applicant. When I pressed him and asked if this was actually a "rule", he said no.....that it is a preference but a strong preference. I hadn't heard of a school having such a preference before and I can find nothing specifically about it on the web site (though I will check again). Just wondered if anyone had heard of this with Brown or other schools.</p>
<p>The alum counsellor went over my S's credentials with a fine toothed comb and spent almost an hour interviewing him plus another twenty minutes talking with us. Legacy is accepted in all phases of the admissions cycle at Brown. However, she did the math for us (in terms of percentage accepted and number of admits) and showed that his best chances would be ED. Her services not only involved a discussion of Brown but all the other schools on my S's list and whether or not they were matches. </p>
<p>She was quite insightful in her ability to "read" my son. Having been a previous member of the admissions committee at Brown, she seemed to know how to assess credentials very quickly and zero in on things that someone else might have missed. Both my S and I are extremely grateful to Brown for having such a service and do not want to do anything that would "imperil" his application. If it was a clear cut rule, our choice would be obvious. </p>
<p>We shall just have to see....</p>
<p>Now that you describe the process I will tell you that in my opinion the dye is cast. I find it interesting that you/son so willingly discussed "other" schools with Brown. Of course Brown is looking to find committed applicants......where else you apply or are thinking of applying is of interest to them. I think they have what they need and it sounds as if they are telling you to go ED as that is where you will gain the advantage......you will need to commit. Wow you post was quite revealing. The service as you refer to it is nice but it is also a nice way for Brown to assess the legacy applicant pool.</p>
<p>Yes, it works to the advantage of both parties. There is another factor here. Many legacy parents get very angry when their children do not get in at the school they attended. (Yes, I know that's ridiculous, but when it comes to their own kids parents can be pretty irrational!) It helps to have an assessment ahead of time to make sure you are at least barking up the right tree. The school wants as few angry alum as possible. About one-third of the people using the service do not have Brown on their list. </p>
<p>The counselor promises that all information is confidential and is not passed on to admissions. Unlike the legacy service at UVa where the counselor actually acts as a "helper" for your application and where she may even consult with the admissions folk at some point, this is a hands off process. (Even at UVa no promises are given, but it is easier to assess someone's likelihood in the in-state pool where numbers play a big role.) At Brown, we clearly understood that it's a roll of the dice but they gave us tips on maximizing our chances. My S. is not aiming for any of the HYPS or very top schools, but the tier just a tad below (and the one below that as well!). Brown is one of our two reaches.</p>
<p>I see...I guess I believed that information was shared. About the angry alums I can understand how they feel. One thing is certain, many alums will readily admit that in today's world they might not be accepted into their alma mater. Getting tops on how to present yourself for success is a nice thing. Good luck and I hope you are successful.</p>