ED Chance?

<p>Concentration: Economics/Math</p>

<p>[ *] SAT: 2310 (800M, 760CR, 750WR) 2 Tries
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): 800 Math 2, 780 US History
[ *] ACT: -
[ *] UM unweighted GPA (on a 4.00 scale): 3.98
AP- Seven 5s, One 4 (3 self studied)
[ *] Rank: School doesn’t rank
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): Very strong EC project, can’t discuss details as it would be too personal. Also the subject of my common app essay.
[ *] Essays: Strong
[ *] Teacher Recs: Good-Excellent
[ *] Counselor Rec: Very good
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): Possibly EC project? Again, can’t give details…
[ *) Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country: NJ
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength: GPA, SATs, EC Project
Weaknesses: Maybe essays? From NJ, white.</p>

<p>Other Stuff:</p>

<p>Strong involvement in math ECs outside of school. AIME Qualifier (Score: 3). I think that my Math supplement was very strong, as I am doing independent study work in my intended concentration this year…</p>

<p>Since theres a few other “chance me” threads floating around, I’ll take this chance to bump mine :)</p>

<p>You have “chanced” someone else on this forum. If you are able to assess someone else’s chances for admission you should be able to assess your own, right?</p>

<p>So, let’s hear it. It is easy to figure out where your standardized test scores and GPA fit in among recently admitted classes at Brown. Let us know the criteria you used when you chanced someone else, and apply it to yourself.</p>

<p>@fenwaypark There is a multitude of reasons that I did not chance myself. After all, I value others’ opinions, since I already have my own. After all, there are so many variables and unique circumstances that for many “qualified” applicants, its hard to say what can make the difference between being deferred or accepted. Perhaps it is foolish to judge people so much on a few lines of text…</p>

<p>That being said, I think I have a strong chance. My academics and tests scores are decently above average. Furthermore, I believe that my extracurricular activities (many of which I didn’t list) are strong, and help show my interest in learning and in math/economics. My teacher recommendations and interview, I’m confident, will not hurt my application. At least, in these regards, my application has no obvious weakness or shortcoming. </p>

<p>On the other hand, being a privileged applicant from NJ, even from a public school, must work against me. Last year, 41 students were accepted ED from NJ. Some were athletes, some had hooks, and undoubtedly some of them were more academically qualified than I. I think that the ultimate decision to accept or defer me will come down to how the admissions committee views my extracurricular “project” and my passion for econ/math. There are a lot of brilliant students applying, so Brown can pick only those who they find the most interesting, and the most passionate.</p>

<p>I’d like to think that I have about a 50% chance of being admitted. I would love to hear other opinions.</p>

<p>There ya go. I don’t think anyone else on the Board here could have brought so much insight.</p>

<p>But about that 50%…</p>

<p>Based on your:</p>

<p>SAT Math–about 16%</p>

<p>SAT Reading–about 14%</p>

<p>SAT Writing–about 13%</p>

<p>GPA–about 18%</p>

<p>(You are aware of these stats derived from the Class of '18, right?)</p>

<p>As a CC poster boy I am not able to assess your extracurricular project or your passion for econ/math, either on their own or compared to the projects and passion of other applicants. </p>

<p>So for me to offer an opinion on those elements of your application would disserve you, and I am not clear about why you would seek it or what benefit it might provide you.</p>

<p>@fenwaypark While those statistics are useful, you can’t look at them in isolation. Each particular one is above average, and having all 3 elements of the SAT above average AND a high GPA is rarer. Most people don’t score above Brown’s average for all 3 sections. </p>

<p>A look at my school’s Naviance reveals that 50% of applicants with above a 2300 were accepted to Brown. Most of them at similar GPAs to my own. At my brother’s school, the situation is similar, at least for ED applicants.</p>

<p>I think that, combined with the intangible factors makes my application solid. I just hope that Brown is interested in what I have to bring to the school :)</p>

<p>As a side note, I like hearing from others because its very easy for me to overlook something. As I said, its hard to judge myself without being biased.</p>

<p>@Tman1005‌ My guess is 1/4 to 1/3 of the applications have fatal flaws. Given that (or whatever % you want to plug in ), the number of 2015 ED applicants, the historical ED acceptance rate, and the number of athletic spots (I think estimates are floating around in the Brown Daily Herald), you could back into a probability. </p>

<p>But, what’s the point? Your 50% guess derived from Naviance is as good as any, provided you’re working from at least 10 or so scattergram dots.</p>

<p>50/50 is probably a healthy perspective for you to have. At this point, it’s binary anyway. You’re in or out - they can’t accept 18% of you.</p>

<p>Best of luck! You sound like an interesting candidate.</p>

<p>@arwarw Thanks! There are so just many smart, talented, and interesting applicants that nothing is certain. At least I’m comfortable in knowing that the tangible factors won’t work against me, and that I’ve done the best that I can do. </p>