<p>Did dartmouth ever let us know how many of us were deferred? any thoughts to our chances in the spring?</p>
<p>I think the Dartmouth deferral letter clearly says that historically, few of the deferred get in. At least it did last year. That said, I do know one deferred student who made it in last year, but she was a legacy and I believe a gift was involved.</p>
<p>I know a few non-legacies who were deferred and then accepted. But honestly, don't get your hopes up. If it happens, it will feel like the best (real) april fools joke ever played on you. Those who are deferred can at least take solace in the fact that they are clearly a very high quality student who could have just as easily been admitted. It is still a huge compliment, and you still have a good shot at other similar caliber schools who might be looking for someone just like you.</p>
<p>The Dartmouth Online had an article on Monday about the early applicant pool. As you can see, 140 were deferred: </p>
<p>"After receiving a record number of early applications, the College admitted 401 new members to the Class of 2013 on Dec. 10, according to Maria Laskaris 84, Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid. The Admissions Office received 1,571 early decision applications, a 9 percent increase from last year.</p>
<p>Dartmouth accepted 26 percent of early applicants this year, as compared with 28 percent in 2007. Approximately nine percent of the applicants, or 140 people, were deferred to the regular admissions pool, Laskaris said. The College usually admits about 10 percent of deferred students during the regular admissions process, she added.</p>
<p>This was the most competitive year in early decision applications because of the highest volume, Laskaris said. We felt a challenge in making some pretty nuanced decisions.</p>
<p>Students admitted under the early decision program will represent about 35 percent of the class of 2013, Laskaris said.</p>
<p>The average SAT scores for early-admitted students were slightly lower than last years scores for students admitted during the regular admissions process. Early-admitted students averaged 707 for Critical Reading, 715 for Math and 715 for Writing this year.</p>
<p>There were fewer students admitted during this years early admissions cycle who were in the top 10 percent of their class than there were last year: Eighty-seven percent of this years early-admitted students are in the top 10 percent of their high school class, according to a December press release, as compared with 89 percent last year.</p>
<p>Laskaris said early decision applicants are held to the same standard as those who take part in the regular decision process.</p>
<p>This is a strong, diverse class, Laskaris said. There is great diversity when looking at financial aid, race, first-generation college students.</p>
<p>Of the admitted students, 197 are male and 204 are female. In terms of geographic origin, Laskaris said that 25 percent of admitted students are from the New England region, 30 percent are from the Mid-Atlantic, 10 percent are from the Mid-west, 14 percent are from the West and six percent are from outside the United States.</p>
<p>About 27 percent of the early-admitted students are people of color.</p>
<p>Students admitted early represent a total of 329 secondary schools, according to the December press release. Fifty-five percent of the admitted students come from public high schools, 38 percent from private schools and 7 percent from parochial schools.</p>
<p>There are 62 children of Dartmouth alumni among the early-admitted students, whereas 65 legacies were admitted early last year and 58 the year before.</p>
<p>The number of applicants seeking financial aid increased by about 10 percent from last years 41.8 percent, according to the press release.</p>
<p>The increased numbers of financial aid applicants will make this year a more challenging one for the staff in the Financial Aid office, though this will not impact our ability to thoroughly review the financial aid applications of those students admitted to the Class of 2013, Laskaris said.</p>
<p>Yale Colleges early action program admitted 742 applicants from a pool of a record 5,557 students, according to the Yale Daily News. Their early acceptance rate was 13.4 percent this year, a decrease from last years early acceptance rate of 18.1 percent.</p>
<p>Regular decision applications for the Class of 2013 were due on Jan. 1. The Admissions Office plans to release admissions decisions and financial aid awards to those applicants in early April."</p>
<p>I wonder when they will announce how many regular decision applications they got this year?</p>
<p>Interesting that they cite virtually every statistic of importance about those admitted except the most crucial one: how many were recruited athletes?</p>
<p>There has been a major question floating around these boards and board rooms: Is the ivy league returning to being serious about athletics? A lowering of the SAT average in a record breaking ED round tells me it is!</p>
<p>Those scores tell us SATs will be very high in the RD round because it's unlikely they well let the overall SAT median, 2200 last year, fall.</p>
<p>a gift was involved?</p>
<p>...... that is interesting</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the fastest way to get in is a major gift. Colleges are honest in saying they need such gifts. This was a young woman whose family would probably have given a major gift eventually, they were just pushed to pledge now.</p>
<p>So like the family give a "major gift" to a school, then they are guaranteed to be accepted?</p>
<p>like 10 billion can get me in Harvard?</p>
<p>lol.... I'm just curious...</p>
<p>$10 million can get you into Harvard if you have the minimal stats to assure you can graduate.</p>
<p>haha I was just curious....</p>
<p>I guess money rules the world after all....</p>
<p>thanks for your answer!</p>
<p>Big Green and Buddy are on the hot seat after the 2008 Football season. I assume that Buddy did some major recruiting and got buy in from admissions. Lots of rumblings from students and alumni (see TheDartmouth.com editorial this week) to get rid of Buddy. I think Buddy gets a pass on this year especially since he is an alum. Next year is another story. It is tough to bring in size so he better have recruited some speed. Quarterback will be interesting as I am sure Jenny will fight it out with Kempe. McManus might be fighting for the job as well.</p>
<p>What a hard life being a football coach! Students calling for your ouster! The poor guy was run out of Stanford too. And this is hist second gig as Dartmouth's coach. Who do they think they'll get to replace him, a big 10 coach?</p>
<p>I can't imagine how the ivies attract any decent players given the academic standards and no aid. Shouldn't this just be for fun?</p>
<p>Yet one of my partners, who played football at Dartmouth when they won (and Buddy was on the team), is very involved in an effort to really bring back football in a big way.</p>
<p>I have no idea what you two are talking about....Big Green and Buddy?</p>
<p>Great article! Yeah I don't think they'll publish who had athletic pull, although that would be nice. Do we think RD apps will go down with the economy, especially with Dartmouth admissions admitting they are getting a little overloaded w fin. aid requests? Or will it have no impact, because D's fin. aid approach is so good? Also, how do kids who just submitted ACTs play a role in maintaining their SAT average? Don't they also publish ACT median?</p>
<p>There's a girl on the field hockey team that we rival with. She is no doubt the best player in the state, and one of the best in the country. I know her coach and asked about her credentials. She's a junior and is homeschooled, no stellar grades or anything, AT ALL (so all she does is play field hockey all day). Princeton is begging for her. Talk about ivies and their athletes!</p>
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<p>That was my suspicion also, hmom.</p>
<p>Easier A's comming our kid's way at Dartmouth (lol)!!</p>
<p>Just anecdotal evidence, but there's a poster on the parent's board who's son is being actively recruited for football right now as is the son of a friend. Isn't this atypical with most players being locked up long before now?</p>