<p>I got my letter today and got deferred...
So does that put me on the waitinglist or into the RD pool?
Do I still have a chance? Do I have a better chance than most RD candidates because I applied ED?</p>
<p>coffeetoffee, being deferred means you are in the RD pool. </p>
<p>It's hard to say what it means as to your chances -- the ad com does know that Barnard was your first choice.... but you also know that you your application didn't have whatever was needed to make the cut for ED, and the RD pool is even more competitive.</p>
<p>What I would suggest is simply giving some thought as to what the weak points of your application might have been -- if there is a way to strengthen it, then submit supplemental materials. </p>
<p>My d. was deferred EA from Chicago last year. She had submitted a very lighthearted and humorous essay to Chicago, and her short answers to various questions on the application were also somewhat flippant.... so I suggested that she submit material to show her more serious side. So she sent in a supplemental essay -- which happened to be the common app essay she had written for Barnard & all the other colleges -- and also sent in a graded writing sample. She was admitted in the spring. In hindsight I think it was nice that she had kind of a do-over opportunity -- something you don't get with a RD application.</p>
<p>So look at it this way: you've submitted your application and gotten the best type of feedback you could possibly have, from the ad com itself. You know that you are good enough to get in, but your application fell short of convincing them. So now you have an opportunity to make it better.</p>
<p>Give it your best shot, and then move on. Actually, my daughter did all of her other apps FIRST before she did the Chicago supplement, which she submitted in mid-February at the same time as her midyear grades. So it might make more sense to focus on the other apps, and then come back to polish the Barnard one with a supplemental app, as its very possible that with a month or so to think about things you'll have some fresh ideas.</p>
<p>"monydad, where are you from?"</p>
<p>Just North of NYC.</p>
<p>Great suggestions above on the deferrals. We know an NMS scholar who wasn't accepted in RD a while ago, so it seems to me like all the "other stuff"- recs, essays, evident fit- must be quite important to them as well. </p>
<p>In the end, best not to get too attached when the decision is out of your hands, and seemingly somewhat arbitrary at times to boot. I suggest chin up, do what you can and then move on. </p>
<p>If D didn't get in she was going to EDII elsewhere.</p>
<p>i was just wondering if (since i have not received anything from barnad yet and i do live in alabama) there is still a chance that the acceptance letter is in the mail...because i know that they send deferrals and denials regular mail and acceptances priority...but isnt priority two to three days (so couldnt it be monday??)....just wondering (actually wondering is the understatement of the century..more like just freaking out!)</p>
<p>I would assume it can be Monday. And I'm really really sorry you have to go though this.</p>
<p>thanks for your concern monydad...yeah waiting on sunday is really stressful because the mail does not come...and i think that my college counselor knows if i got in or not and i know she cannot tell me but i am trying to keep my hopes up but it is sooo hard...and i am trying to keep in mind that alabama mail really sucks so..........any words of advice from students in years past from the southeast about when they received mail and stuff would be extremely helpful....and a HUGE CONGRATS to everyone that made it!!!!</p>
<p>Ugh, that's horrible. ): I would be going out of my mind. Good luck!!</p>
<p>i am going out of my mind...and i have finals tomorrow...and i have not started studying because everytime that i try to concentrate i FAIL miserably because i cannot stop thinking about barnard. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.</p>
<p>good luck bamagal! it's terrible that you have to wait, really. good luck again.</p>
<p>someone asked for stats I think... here are mine(I got in):
GPA (weighted) 95.5
SAT 1: Math 660 Writing 710 CR 720 total= 2090
SAT II Bio E 690 Lit 760 US History 660
APs by the end of this year (jun/senior year combined): AP Eng11, AP Eng 12, AP Art, AP Calc AB, AP Physics B, AP Bio, AP US History, AP Psych
ECS: 3 year science research program, my project is on eating disorders
National Writing Award (Scholastic Gold Key for Short Story), summer writing program, middlebury 4 day writing program, in school lit magazine
I've been oil painting/doing art classes since I was 8... lots of programs, Pratt and Parsons, I sent in a supplementary rec from an art teacher, and I sent them prints of my artwork
Comm service: saferides for 3 years, ASP for 5 (appalachain service project, 9 days comm service work over the summer)</p>
<p>Hang in there, Bamagal! I think my d got her (regular decision) packet a day or so after many on this forum and we are in Ga.</p>
<p>My thoughts and prayers are definitely with you!</p>
<p>It's okay barnagal! We're all with you! :) Just hang in there.. ^___^</p>
<p>Um.. stats I guess?</p>
<p>GPA: 3.953/4.000
SAT I: 800M/800CR/770W
SAT II: 800 Math IIC, 790 Literature, French 620 (<em>cough</em> eeep), Physics 750
APs: BC Calc 5, Chemistry 5
IBs: English, History, French
ECs: </p>
<p>Stupid stuff that doesn't really matter.. you know like.. the stuff you join in school and everyone else does too?
Math Team - AIME Qualification, Harvard-MIT Math Tournament, American Regional Math League, Mandlebrot Competition
Model UN - Committee Chair/Staffing/Awards
Architectural Internship with SKidmore, Owings, and Merrilll LLP (arch. firm in Manhattan; worked on Freedom Tower and stuff)
Dance - I dance for New Tang Dynasty Television's Chinese New Year Spectacular (shows.ntdtv.com); 26-city worldwide tour coming up in January; performance at Radio City Music Hall in Feb., performance at Beacon Theater (this coming Tuesday-Sunday)</p>
<p>^^ Dance was my biggest EC. lol</p>
<p>Otherwise.. yeah.. nothing in particular that I can think of..</p>
<p>Good luck to those who haven't heard for ED, and those for RD!!!!! :D</p>
<p>I have a few quick questions related to deferral and I'm hoping someone here might be able to answer them. Is it appropriate to call the ad comm and ask where she thought your application showed weakness or perhaps to ask what you can do to demonstrate your strengths? Is this a question better asked over the phone or in an e-mail communication? Who would be a good person to ask for advice, since dd's guidance counselor is not particularly knowledgeable. (He is a nice guy, but not particularly helpful. Mostly, he seems like a paper pusher.) I play tennis with a woman who made a career change from executive recruiting to college consulting. She did an internship in a local high school guidance department and then went to work for a firm that provides college counseling services. Do these kinds of firms have a handle on the best way for deferred kids to respond? Has anyone used one of these services?</p>
<p>Finally, congratulations to everyone who got accepted!!</p>
<p>Happymom,
I have no direct experience with this, but another poster on the Parent's board commented that she was very happy with the College Confidential "Stats Evaluation" last year -- from the comment it seemed that they got a lot of good pointers -- that's the service they sell for about $90 -
<a href="http://collegeconfidential.com/college_counseling/stats_eval.htm%5B/url%5D">http://collegeconfidential.com/college_counseling/stats_eval.htm</a>
It is one way you could get an objective viewpoint about where your daughter's weak points are and how the application can be strengthened. </p>
<p>You might ask your tennis friend whether her firm offers anything similar in terms of affordability. </p>
<p>I didn't do anything like that with my daughter, but I did attend some college workshops that I thought were tremendously helpful in seeing weak spots in my daughter's profile -- you just need to be able to step back and view the application through the "eyes" of a stranger rather than parental eyes. The workshops I attended had us playing the role of admission officers reviewing & discussing fictional applications, and just doing that helped me get a sense of how my daughter's application might have been seen. </p>
<p>Anyway, the point is that another pair of eyes might see something that you've missed. </p>
<p>I do believe that one very common reason for deferral is simply that the academics & GPA are not as strong as they could be, and so the college simply wants to see midyear grades before making a decision. So look at issues like your daughter's overall GPA; reputation/standing of her high school; class rank if available; issues with particular grades & courses; and how many advanced level college prep courses have already been completed -- some kids are just taking classes their senior year that others may have typically completed in junior year, simply because of course scheduling issues. I mean, it may be that the very best thing your daughter can do is get A's in all of her classes this fall, especially if she stumbled in any way in courses last term. </p>
<p>I don't think it's ever a good idea for a PARENT to call the admissions officer, though it would be ok for your daughter to call -- but I'm not sure what the quality of information or feedback she gets would be. Maybe the question needs to be framed, "Is there anything in my application that you had questions or concerns about?" ... as opposed to, "What can I do to improve my chances?"</p>
<p>I was never intending to call--just asking about what dd might say if she calls. The girl from her high school who is a sophmore at Barnard and was in the same situation two years ago emailed dd and they're getting together on Friday. Hopefully, she'll have some advice. I think I'll go ahead and call my friend too. As you said, several povs can be helpful.</p>
<p>I emailed my admissions officer and she told me that I should raise my senior grades as high as possible.
However, grades close two weeks after I get back in january, so I really can't do all that much.
I got my first C ever this year, in math, and I am very embarrassed and disappointed...but I can't raise it now.</p>
<p>I'm a Barnard sophomore who was deferred ED. I called my Admissions officer (you can find out who yours is by region and their contact info on the admissions website) and she was very helpful and willing to speak to me about my application over the phone. If I remember correctly, I called her and she called me back once she had my application directly in front of her.</p>
<p>QTPoint, What did you do to get in?</p>
<p>Happy Day! I've been reading for awhile, but not posting -- and agonizing along with the rest of you. My daughter (finally) received her acceptance today for ED Barnard -- and we live in Connecticut! These last few days have been torture, but now we are all ecstatic and looking forward to the fall. </p>
<p>Congrats to all!</p>
<p>Hoooo-ray for PTMOM's daughter!!!! I am so happy for you and for your daughter! </p>
<p>Any questions, just buzz on over to the thread for Barnard parents that Calmom started. Welcome to a wonderful adventure!</p>
<p>I GOT IN...I GOT IN!!!! yay...i am sooo incredibly excited...thank you all so much for helping me out the last few days!!!!
so here are my stats to help all yall out:</p>
<p>GPA: 3.86 unweighted 4.3 weighted
ACT: 32
-photography, national honor society and junior honor society, varsity volleyball...
-attended the pre-college program and started a campaign to help the homeless of new york
-nominated for seventeen magazine article from the barnard pcp program
AND i highly recommend the pre-college program because it was the BEST FIVE WEEKS OF MY LIFE!!!!</p>