ED to UPenn or Brown?

College Search & Selection
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<p>Which one should I go ED for: UPenn or Brown??</p>

<p>Interested in Music Management/Business. No exact program at either school. Will work around Business and Music courses. Also will take part in extracurricular radio/music opportunities:</p>

<p>UPenn: Will apply to Wharton ED for Marketing and Communications with a possible minor in Music at "the college." Liked the campus. Will be very busy at Wharton during the school year I assume, but looking for a job afterwards with a degree from Wharton will be a plus.</p>

<p>Brown: Will attempt to work around Music and Business courses (does Brown even have Business?). Liked the campus and the general feel of the school. Will definitely have ample time to pursue interests in music at Brown through the a capella groups, theater organizations and BCA (Brown Concert Agency).</p>

<p>** WHAT DO YOU THINK?!! ED to Upenn or Brown?!</p>

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<p>at brown, the major difference is you'd be going the liberal arts route as opposed to a directed course of study. if your interests were in music and business you might concentrate in COE, music, or MCM in any combination (or do all three)</p>

<p>exploring these websites may help you learn more about brown</p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Registrar/Concentration/Concentrations-24.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Registrar/Concentration/Concentrations-24.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.brownep.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brownep.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/MCM/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Departments/MCM/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/meme/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Music/meme/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>If you can get in go Wharton and don't think twice, you will probably still get a good exposure to the liberal arts.</p>

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<p>BS"D
You seem like you would fit better at Brown and like it better too.</p>

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<p>I can't answer your your original question but I was wondering if you have considered schools that offer Music Business and Management degrees? I know that Berklee College of Music (Boston, MA), New York University, University of Colorado at Denver, University of Texas at San Antonio, and the University of Miami offer such degrees.</p>

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<p>I have considered them and are keeping them on the back-burner, except I think a generally good school with strong liberal arts is better for my interests than say... a conservatory like NYU or Berklee which specializes solely in music. I want to keep my options open and be able to take courses of varied interests. So -- Brown or UPenn?</p>

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<p>the liberal arts describes a philosophy of education more than it describes a field of study. it is true that you can take humanities courses at both schools, but you'd only be pursuing a liberal arts education at brown or perhaps, at penn college. wharton is a completely different type of education, as would be music business programs.</p>

<p>the first step to deciding is to look at the curricula of both types of programs and see what appeals to you more.</p>

<p>the second is to look at the institutional cultures of both places, which are very different.</p>

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<p>It seems to me that the schools have some striking differences. Brown has more of a liberal arts, intellectual, type of environment. While Upenn(Wharton) is excellent, it is more preprofessional. UPenn is bigger also. Weigh the pros and cons of each school and that should help in making a final decision. BTW, I personally would choose Brown ED in a heartbeat, but that is just me.</p>

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<p>bump this post please</p>

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<p>Regarding NYU, can't you work out something doing coursework from both Stern and Tisch if you apply for their individualized study program?</p>

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<p>If you go to Wharton you will definitely have time to get involved with extracurriculars, WXPN, a capella groups, theater, etc. Wharton students are heavily involved with EC's. Don't think that just because you are at Wharton all you will do is study. That's a very inaccurate assessment.</p>

<p>Another thing you need to consider: Philadelphia or Providence. BIG DIFFERENCE.</p>

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<p>Ok.. so let's hear them. The pro's and con's of Brown and UPenn from the best (and least subjective) of your ability. I'll weigh the options. :-D</p>

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<p>Matt,
I don't think one is better than the other but clearly different options. From everything you have written, it seems that you are understandably not ready to commit to a certain specialized program of study like you would have to do by applying directly to a program at NYU for example. Since you seem to be ruling out applying to the music business programs directly, I see Wharton as being aligned with that same idea. It is also a program you must commit to and apply directly to. It is not a liberal arts degree. Of course, at Wharton or even at NYU, you still can take liberal arts courses. But you are commiting to a certain program of study NOW at the application stage. That, to me, is one of the big differences in your choices. Based on what I know about you, applying to a place like Brown, would allow you to sample your various interests and even piece together your own major if need be. You would have many opportunities to take what you want. It is also a school with a very active arts community. You could do internships in this field, if you want to explore it further. In any case, it seems to fit what you seem to want given that you are not absolutely certain of your major (and most 17 year olds are not) and you only came to this specific one very recently (and it could change!). You can always go to grad school for business. </p>

<p>I also would hesitate to apply ED to either school since you don't feel certain of your first choice. ED really is for when one school truly stands out as your most favorite of all. I encourage you to return to these choices for a more in depth look, including an overnight, and talking with professors and students which will help you with your decision. </p>

<p>The schools differ in other ways. I know both schools as my D got into both schools. She is at Brown. However, Penn is a wonderful school as well. Penn is much bigger than Brown. Penn has a more urban feel to it than Brown, though Brown is in walking distance to downtown/urban. Brown has the open curriculum, Penn does not. It really has more to do with what YOU want in a school. Both schools are great but one likely fits you better than the other. Only YOU can figure that out. I only say Brown because it seems to fit your preferences/needs from what I know about you. Also theater is big there and I know you are very into theater and you could be active in producing or directing the student run musicals, for example. Radio is very good at Brown too. Individualized study is well supported. The options might be more flexible there for you than at Wharton and it seems to me that you need that flexibility right now as your career interests are evolving and changing, from what I know about you or have read in your posts over time. </p>

<p>If you wish to do an overnight at Brown, contact me as my D would be happy to help you. She could connect you with kids in theater there too. Music is popular at Brown, and particularly the a capella scene. </p>

<p>What really makes me say Brown to YOU is that you are not that interested in schools like NYU because you say you prefer liberal arts over music conservatories (like Steinhardt's program) and so I would correlate that to picking liberal arts over business school for the same reason. I don't say that to everyone but merely to you based on your interests as stated.
Susan</p>

<p>PS...please do not feel you must apply ED to a school. It may not be the best choice for you. Your preferences might change/evolve as the school year progresses. Believe me, plenty of kids get into these schools in RD too. My kid did and lots others as well.</p>

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<p>Penn's campus sucks... go to Brown</p>

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<p>Brown because it's the best school, um, ever. Everyone here ADORES their school (and there's a reason for it). You can't beat that.</p>

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<p>I think you're a poor candidate for ED at either place. The offerings you are talking about for what you want to do (which you already seem to have a handle on) are so very different that if you can't find a preference between them, chances are the reality is you don't have a clear first choice, or a reason yet for having one.</p>

<p>You might want to consider some other options..</p>

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<p>Well if he doesn't get in ED there's nothing lost...he can still apply other places</p>

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<p>I think the fact that you don't have a clear choice indicates that you shouldn't apply ED to either place.</p>

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<p>Penn's campus is one of the best urban campuses in the country.</p>

<p>Especially when you consider what they were given to start with...</p>

<p>-No master plan
-No money
-The misfortune of having a state-directed building spree at the nadir of Western architechture</p>

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<p>The only reason I want to apply ED is because the chances of acceptance increase immensely for both. I think specifically for Wharton the RD acceptance was 24% and for ED it was 36% - or something close. And like everyone else, the idea of knowing in Dec. and not in April is amazing. I think since I can limit it down to 2 is better than being torn between 5 if you know what I mean. I really don't know what to do anymore.... and would prefer to apply once and be done - but then wouldn't we all like that?</p>