<p>UF has 30K undergrads. <a href=“University of Florida - Common Data Set”>http://www.ir.ufl.edu/OIRApps/commondataset/b_enrollment_v1.aspx</a>
UCF has 37K full time undergrads. <a href=“http://archive.is/zBbt”>http://archive.is/zBbt</a></p>
<p>You can debate if those numbers are significantly different. </p>
<p>UF has 21.4 to 1 Student Faculty Ratio. UCF has 31.7 to 1. I think that IS significant.</p>
<p>I can appeal to UF in a week. But they have like a 2-3% chance of success so slim to none chance. I visited FGCU today and I did not like it, so im crossing that off my list. Its between UCF and UM basically. and they are totally different schools</p>
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<p>that should not be a noticeable difference. It’s not enough to make a person say that UCF is “too big” while UF is not. </p>
<p>^^ that’s your opinion, but would you say a school of 10,000 is not bigger than one with 3000? It’s still only 7000 more students.</p>
<p>And it really depends if the school is designed to handle that many more students. Are there dorms for everyone? Classrooms? Facilities? What if there are only 30,000 student football tickets (there aren’t that many) so the extra 7000 kids don’t get to go to the games? I don’t agree that once you reach 25000, the school is just big so who cares how much bigger.</p>
<p>UCF is very popular, and my kids have friends who have chosen it over FSU or UF. I don’t get it (I think Orlando is hot and crowded), but 37,000 others do.</p>
<p>My undergrad school had 25,000 students when I was there. The reality was, I didn’t KNOW or need to know, or interact with 25,000 students. My department major was small…a cohort of less than 100 in each year. The student needs to see what size his/her major is. The school might actually seem smaller than its actual size.</p>
<p>The reality is…there are limited student tickets to football games at most universities…and anyway…ALL the students don’t even WANT tickets or attend games.</p>
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<p>Oh good heavens. That’s not a fair comparison. Certainly that would be noticeable because the larger school is over three times the size of the smaller one.</p>
<p>Once the size is very large (in the case of UF), a school that has 7000 more students isn’t going to seem that much different. Imagine being in a city with 30,000 people vs 37,000 people. Not a big noticeable difference. But there would be a noticeable difference between 30,000 and 100,000 which is the proportional difference in your suggested scenario.</p>
<p>Everyone has a point where the school is too big for him. For some people it is 3000, for others it is 30,000. I do think there is a difference between 30,000 and 37000. Say that a school has 15000 student football tickets available. Is there a difference between 30,000 students wanting them and 37000? Sure. Notre Dame only has 10,000 students and its stadium is about the same size. Is the library bigger? The auditoriums where they hold events? UCF would have the same issue (and does) that while the school is growing, the facilities aren’t growing as fast and there is a point where a department just is too big. The theater department is still only going to produce a certain number of plays per year, so it will matter that there are 1000 students majoring in theater rather than 800 even if they hire 6 more faculty members and add a couple of advisors. Those extra 7000 students don’t have their own majors, but are worked into the departments that are already there. The English department is going to have an extra 200, and the chemistry labs are going to have extra stations, but those students are still competing for the prime lab time and best professors, even if there are other sections of the same course offered. If there is an award or honor, there will be more students going for it but still only one winner.</p>
<p>Some people want small schools, so 2000 vs 3000 makes a difference to them.</p>
<p>"“Notre Dame only has 10,000 students and its stadium is about the same size.”"</p>
<p>Since when? ND’s stadium seats over 80,000.</p>
<p>anyway, I’m not going to argue with you about this. There are many arguments that I could present to counter, but it doesn’t matter. You’re going to use examples like small schools of 2000 vs 3000 (50% larger) - which are meaningless to this situation. </p>
<p>Notre Dame has a football stadium about the same size as other universities, yet only 10,000 (actually about 8500) students to fill the student section, so an average student has a much better chance of actually getting to go than a student at UCF which might have twice as many, 20k student tickets, available. The facilities can serve the needs of the students. UCF has to divy its student tickets amoung 37000 (or seats to the lecture by a visiting prof, tickets to the swim meet, tickets to a concert, seats in the library). Sometimes it is a percentage difference, like a 2000 student school is 50% smaller than a 3000 student school, but sometimes it is the actual count, the 7000 student difference. Where do you put those students? Where can you build another building? How can you get from one side of the school to the other for a class? If the new dorms are 2 miles away, that’s a problem.</p>
<p>I don’t think there is a big difference between a 2000 and a 2460 student school (23% larger), but I do think the 7000 extra students at UCF make a big difference, approximately 23% bigger than UF. You can’t just mix in 7000 actual bodies, whereas some schools could grow 25% without much additional infrastructure needed.</p>
<p>lets not get off topic here lol----obviously UF and UCF are both big, a lot bigger than UM. The difference between UCF and UM is so big and im so confused as where im going to end up.</p>
<p>Simmer down folks. It sounds like you guys are attacking each other lol. </p>