<p>what are my chances of getting into UCLA if i am a california resident but do not have ELC? are my chances proactically non existent w/out ELC?</p>
<p>Having ELC is an advantage ( you get guaranteed admission to one of the UCs (preferably the less prominent ones) but your chances of admission to UCLA wouldn't be greatly affected if you don't have ELC. In my case, I didn't have ELC and I was accepted into Henry Samueli School of Engineering. You should focus more on your test scores, grades, essays, and extracurricular activities because admission to UCLA will be more intense for the class of 2010.</p>
<p>automath:</p>
<p>What's your major?</p>
<p>ELC does not guarantee admissions into UCLA either. But plenty of students without ELC get admitted to UCLA. This is especially true if the student goes to a very competitive high school.</p>
<p>What would be considered as a "competitive high school"?? Judging from the school's API score? Or roughly how many kids gets sent to UCLA each year?</p>
<p>I got in without ELC. I also got into Berkeley without it. Go me. </p>
<p>A good gauge of how good your school is is to see where it sends who, and what those people look like on paper. If you look like the ones that go to UCLA each year (with your ECs, grades, courses, essays, test scores, ect), then you're in good shape. If you have superior things in each area, all the better. It isn't that hard to sense a good range of where kids go from your school.</p>
<p>It's hard to tell how competitive one's school really is, but you can get a decent idea.</p>
<p>To get into UCLA, you generally have to be about as good as the kids who are ELC in that those are the ones with the hardest classes, best grades, and they probably did best on tests and did the most and most impressive ECs. At some California public schools, the best kids cannot get into Berkeley and UCLA. At others, many students apply to them as safeties. I think one nor cal school sends about 60 students to Berkeley per year. Lets assume that 4% of the schools entire population is 60, meaning every admit was ELC and the top of the class, which would make more than 1350 or so an entire graduating class. Well, the school isnt that big, it just sends many kids to top schools. At this school, ELC probably diminishes greatly in value, whereas at other schools, ELC only means you are going to get into at least one UC full stop.</p>