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<p>She’s living on campus? I just can’t picture her, or any “celebrity” living in a dorm.</p>
<p>there a lot of celebrities in many colleges and they really appreciate the “semblance of normal”. Trust me, I know a couple personally-let them be. :)</p>
<p>I wonder who the LUCKY roommate is gonna be…</p>
<p>it will be in like the first HP book/movie…“Emma Waton?”…<em>heads turn and ppl whipser</em>…“Uh…Ahem…HERE!!!”…<em>everyone looks at her</em></p>
<p>HAHAHAHHAHAA</p>
<p>[The</a> Brown Daily Herald - ‘Harry Potter’ star Watson to go from Hogwarts to College Hill](<a href=“http://www.browndailyherald.com/harry-potter-star-watson-to-go-from-hogwarts-to-college-hill-1.1775433]The”>http://www.browndailyherald.com/harry-potter-star-watson-to-go-from-hogwarts-to-college-hill-1.1775433)</p>
<p>BOOYAH</p>
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<p>That would be funny. Probably the among the most awkward meetings.</p>
<p>Could this be a really bad thing for potential transfer students? As in, Brown’s probably gonna get like a million more applications next year! Waahhh</p>
<p>don’t worry she’s not going to brown. she is going to cornell.</p>
<p>Hopefully this will help rankings in US News if the yield improves this year and applications rise next year. Brown was #10 in 1999 before falling to #17 in 2004. </p>
<p>In terms of selectivity, I think it is definitely up there with Columbia and UPenn. If the school could spend more on science research and faculty hiring, that would probably help a lot.</p>
<p>cmburns-- research and faculty hiring are great things, but not why we’ve fallen. We’ve substantially increased the number of faculty (by 100 in just the last 4-5 years) and spending on research over that period and still fell.</p>
<p>The only large-scale study of selectivity I’m aware of had Brown above Columbia and Penn. That was the oft-cited “Revealed Preference Ranking of U.S. Colleges and Universities” published in December 2005 by economists Avery (Harvard), Glickman (B.U.), Hoxby (Harvard), and Metrick (UPenn). It was based on a tracking study of 3200 high-achieving applicants. In the competition for shared admits, Brown won 56 percent against Columbia and 65 percent against Penn. The national selectivity rankings were 1 Harvard, 2 Caltech, 3 Yale, 4 MIT, 5 Stanford, 6 Princeton, 7 Brown, 8 Columbia, 9 Amherst, 10 Dartmouth, 11 Wellesley, 12 Penn, 13 Notre Dame, 14 Swarthmore, 15 Cornell. The study is downloadable at the website of the Social Science Research Network
([SSRN-A</a> Revealed Preference Ranking of U.S. Colleges and Universities by Christopher Avery, Mark Glickman, Caroline Hoxby, Andrew Metrick](<a href=“http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=601105]SSRN-A”>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=601105)).</p>
<p>modestmelody, jimsonweed- you both raise good points. I’m not really sure why Brown is ranked where it is on US News since the input measures (admit rate, SAT scores) dominate output measures in their methodology. But Brown definitely has some work to do to catch up with other research institutions in % of faculty in NAS/NAE, recent Nobel prizes, NIH and DOE funding, journal citations, etc. Granted senior faculty honors are less relevant to the kind of work that is being done today at the junior faculty level. There are many strengths, particularly pure and applied math. One area in need of attention is the chemistry department as it’s currently not in the top 50. </p>
<p>I think the “Revealed Preferences” study’s main flaw is a lot of students self-select- e.g. Wall Street-inclined students apply early to Wharton, those with engineering interests apply to Cornell and Northwestern (rather than, say a Brown or Yale). Whatever Wash U and especially UPenn have been doing in the last 10 years in US News, Brown should definitely follow.</p>
<p>“I think the “Revealed Preferences” study’s main flaw is a lot of students self-select…”</p>
<p>Exactly, a mere glance at Notre Dame’s placement (and BYU) clearly highlights this.
The priority for those schools among the sample of applicants who applied to, and chose them would not likely have been shared by many of the non-applicants.</p>
<p>In other words, the applicants represent a biased sample of the underlying population, not a random sample, therefore caution must be exercised in extrapolating results beyond those individuals.</p>
<p>This isn’t getting nearly as much attention, but Grawp has decided not to attend Tufts. He’s taking a gap year to work on a reality show with his wacky roommate and Nick Carter.</p>
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<p>A few points:
- No, Brown really doesn’t if their goal is not solely to be a research powerhouse. Brown’s goal is not to be the prototypical Research I school, and it is modeled after the university-college. The idea is we need to attract top researchers and have graduate students so that undergraduates have the best opportunities available. We seek to balance personal attention and LAC-style education and teaching focus while simultaneously producing serious research. Our mission, in contrast to JHU for instance, is not to increased the output of knowledge in the world, it’s to increase the number of knowledgeable people in the world. Our stated outcome goal is to produce students who will make the world better through their education which will equipped them to “discharge the office of life with usefulness and reputation”. NAS and Nobel prizes aren’t necessarily a part of this picture.</p>
<p>2) Under the “World’s Best Colleges and Universities” list on USNWR, Brown has a citations per faculty score of 99/100, ahead of Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial College London, UCL, UChicago, Colombia, Duke, Cornell, UMich, University of Tokyo, etc.</p>
<p>Much of our problems are scale and focus-- we’re not focused enough on the desire to be a pure research powerhouse to make up for our small size. We’re far too comprehensive and our mission is too broad to have that kind of success. Look at the size of the graduate programs or professional schools and of the faculty of schools you think are better than Brown, and consider this-- do any of these institutions that do “better” have the same wide-reaching goal which is pervasive throughout the university, not just for their undergraduates, while not focusing in particular areas to build prominence (like say, MIT or CalTech)? If there are schools like that, then look at the differences between them and Brown and start talking about what Brown needs to do to “catch up”. </p>
<p>But it’s wrong to think that Brown should be adopting other common models, like WashU’s blitzkrieg to increase admits and lower yield through some manipulations as well as bolster it’s world class medical school to bring in funding, as well as offering merit scholarship and spending huge amounts on student-life areas to be attractive, or the UPenn accept as much of the class as possible early and utilize the established professional schools both as a huge money maker to provide resources but also a curricular draw to pre-professional students. Those schools are just so different than Brown in purpose and make up that their plans shouldn’t dictate ours.</p>
<p>In fact, USNWR should not dictate any of our plans, our own mission and vision for our school should, and nothing else.</p>
<p>If you want to continue this conversation, perhaps we should make a new thread?</p>
<p>I’m now torn between Yale EA or Brown ED…Brown becomes ever more attractive with the inclusion of Emma Watson.</p>
<p>Damn.</p>
<p>I think you want Yale… considering you said “damn” referring to the fact the Brown is becoming more attractive. I personally would have chosen Columbia ALL THE WAY! And I am kind of shocked she didn’t because with her career you would think the city would be a better place for her. However, Brown is BEAUTIFUL. One of the prettiest campuses I have ever since for sure!</p>
<p>I don’t think she wants a million people watch her as she goes to class. If she doesn’t want a roommate who is going to make a fuss about Harry Potter, she definitely doesn’t want to attend a school in a city where there are millions of people who would wish to see her (New York). If she went to Columbia, she would be flooded by photographer when she steps out of the door.</p>
<p>Actually, I think her comments that she wanted to come to America specifically due to the opportunity to study broadly which is generally unavailable in the British system makes Brown the natural choice.</p>
<p>Unlike other young actors or actresses who drive fancy cars, she has a Prius. Why would she want to go to any places else but Brown? :)</p>
<p>She didn’t like the England curriculum if I remember right and she like America’s so she decided to come here.</p>