<p>I am planning to do Pre-med. If not, then Health Sciences (pharmacy, speech-language pathology, or occupational therapy). Which school is the better choice? Please give me some advice because I am having a difficult time deciding. Thanks.</p>
<p>Both are top notch academic schools, but the environment is so different that you have to choose where you would rather be spending your 4 years - and not looking at a ranking.</p>
<p>Emory is in Atlanta - a major city, where sports are non-existant, in a warm environment, is connected with the Methodist church, is only 29% in-state students, and has about 6500 total undergrads. </p>
<p>Michigan is in Ann Arbor - a college town, where sports are big, in a cold environment, has no religious affiliation, is 66% in-state students, and has about 25000 total undergrads.</p>
<p>Atlanta has the Hawks, Falcons, and Braves--professional teams.</p>
<p>Besides, if you need some college football to tide you over, I'm sure GaTech won't be too bad to visit.</p>
<p>I shouldn't consider ranking here?</p>
<p>The problem is that I've never visited any of these schools, but I am pretty certain that I can adapt to the weather. So, do any of you have any further suggestions. Plus, as I have mentioned earlier, I will like to do Pre-Med or Health Sciences. Which one do you think is the better pick?</p>
<p>The better pick is the environment you would rather be in. Do you want a big rah rah state school in a cold weather environment where you will experience all the seasons in a college town? Or do you want a small private school in a major city in a warm weather environment?</p>
<p>Rankings are pointless, because both are great schools. One ranks 18, the other 24. One has a peer assessment of 4.0, the other 4.5. You aren't doing yourself a disservice of choosing one over another.</p>
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<p>You're really stretching the definition of "professional team" there, to include the Hawks. Though I imagine one can find Hawks tickets for cheap, even on a student budget.</p>
<p>A2 nails it. You can get a fine education at either. What type of experience do you want? The only difference is outside Atlanta far more people know of UM than Emory.</p>
<p>Data mostly drawn from USNWR. </p>
<p>OBJECTIVE DATA</p>
<p>Undergraduate Enrollment:
Emory: 6510 U Michigan: 25,467 </p>
<p>Number and In-state % of students:
Emory: 1106 (17%) U Michigan: 17,572 (69%) </p>
<p>Cost (Tuition & Fees):
Emory: $32,506 U Michigan: $30,179 (OOS) </p>
<p>Graduation & Retention Rank
Emory: 25th U Michigan: 28th </p>
<p>-% of Students expected to graduate in 6 years:
Emory: 93% U Michigan: 77% </p>
<p>-% of students who do graduate in 6 years:
Emory: 89% U Michigan: 86% </p>
<p>Faculty Resources Rank:
Emory: 12th U Michigan: 69th </p>
<p>-% of classes with 50+ students
Emory: 8% U Michigan: 16% </p>
<p>-% of classes with <20 students
Emory: 64% U Michigan: 43% </p>
<p>-Faculty/student ratio
Emory: 7/1 U Michigan: 15/1 </p>
<p>Student Selectivity Rank:
Emory: 15th U Michigan: 22nd </p>
<p>-Average SAT/ACT:
Emory: 1300-1470 U Michigan: 1220-1410 </p>
<p>-% of students ranking in top 10% of high school class
Emory: 90% U Michigan: 89% </p>
<p>-% acceptance rate
Emory: 37% U Michigan: 57% </p>
<h1>of NMS scholars on campus:</h1>
<p>Emory: 252 (4% of student body) U Michigan: 300 (1%) </p>
<h1>of 1500 scorers enrolled:</h1>
<p>Emory: 1148 (18% of student body) U Michigan: 1645 (6%)</p>
<p>Financial Resources Rank:
Emory: 16th U Michigan: 31st </p>
<p>Alumni Giving % and Rank:
Emory: 36% (15th) U Michigan: 15% (105th)</p>
<p>SUBJECTIVE DATA</p>
<p>Peer Assessment:
Emory: 4.0 U Michigan: 4.5 </p>
<p>While rankings can be manipulated (arbitrary weights are assigned by USNWR to various factors) and parts of them can be subjective (Peer Assessment), they may have some indicative value in evaluating a school and what you can expect as an undergraduate. Certain of the numbers and ranks above may have little value for you, but some may have great comparative value. The interpretation is up to the reader and these numbers are recommended as an early step in the college selection process. </p>
<p>With regard to the comparison above, Emory gets the better of the comparison in nearly every objective category, especially Faculty Resources and related class size factors, strength of student body as measured by SAT scores, NMS scholars, 1500 scorers, and equal in Top 10% students, and overall Financial Resources. Michigan evens the comparison somewhat by virtue of its strong PA rating which reflects U Michigan’s strong appeal to academics and likely reflects that institution’s strong research reputation. </p>
<p>As other posters have noted, these are very different schools in terms of environment and the personal attractiveness of each environment. </p>
<p>Editorial comment: In my view, Emory is among the most underrated schools in the country. Its strength of student body is impressive and their large endowment and mid-size gives them the resources to invest heavily in their faculty and students. I agree with Barrons assessment about national appreciation of Emory or lack thereof. It is one of America's very top universities.</p>
<p>I would bet Emory's low S/F ratio is due to the large Medical School which really has nothing to do with undergrads.</p>
<p>"I would bet Emory's low S/F ratio is due to the large Medical School which really has nothing to do with undergrads."</p>
<p>Unless Emory lied to them, USNews doesn't count med school faculty in the ratio. If they did, Harvard's ratio would be like 1/1 because practically every doctor in Boston has a faculty appointment.</p>
<p>Emory and Michigan are so different the choice shouldn't be so difficult.</p>
<p>Emory is not really in Atlanta either. </p>
<p>Besides both schools having many smart students, the one thing these schools have in common is a large Jewish population.</p>
<p>School spirit was very, very important to my daughter so she decided not to even apply to Emory. Emory is a quieter place. These schools don't even compare in school spirit or sports. However, if small classes are more important, unless you are in honors at Michigan, I would consider Emory.</p>
<p>And then there is the weather.</p>
<p>If you are not going to visit the schools, try to pick up a couple of videos from <a href="http://www.collegiatechoice.com%5B/url%5D">www.collegiatechoice.com</a></p>
<p>There is also <a href="http://www.theu.com%5B/url%5D">www.theu.com</a> where you can download videos. I would do that.</p>
<p>Also, I think there is a service that will mail you a video of Emory. I'm sorry, I just can't remember it.</p>
<p>If you do visit the schools, you'll know what you like.</p>
<p>Here's a more clear number.</p>
<p>barrons, Thanks for the clarification. It does make you wonder why the USNWR number is different. I believe that the other numbers, particularly those related to student body strength, are accurate. </p>
<p>dstark, I strongly agree. Given the different nature of these two schools and environments, visits are highly recommended.</p>
<p>If you go to Michigan, you will get teaching assistants and huge lectures.</p>
<p>Isn't that important to anyone?</p>
<p>If you don't want to have any GSIs (teaching assistants) then you shouldn't go to Michigan. My daughter said, "For some classes like calc 1, why waste a great professor?" :)</p>
<p>Anyway, if a person is a good teacher, she could care less. She said she thinks she has had maybe 3 grad students teach classes in 3 years. She's not sure.</p>
<p>So, I'm just putting more information out there.</p>
<p>75% percent of Michigan students have unweighted gpas of 3.7 or higher.</p>
<p>Huge lectures are only a small portion of total classes-under 10%-- and most students only take a few. The classes that have large lectures are well suited to that format where the objective is covering basics quickly.</p>