@emorynavy : That is a stupid ranking centric dream to get the student:faculty ratio down. The reality is that the increased enrollment up to a certain point (maybe 1350-1370) helped as it added tuition revenue and made the campus “fuller” (more crowded and vibrant=the rise to the 1350 area occurred quickly and I could tell the difference by time I graduated because my class was 1270ish and the freshman class coming in my senior year was maybe 1370). 1400-1450 is a bit high, but it is unrealistic to expect that much lower. Emory’s facilities, I guess, could realistically handle mid-1300s to low very low 1400s at the moment They need to think about the current enrollment levels in the master planning efforts that are ongoing.
Class of 2022 1,440
Class of 2021 1,404
Class of 2021 1,361
@emorynavy When did they indicate that they will go back to 1350 or admit that they made any “mistakes”?
If they are accommodating 2,844 freshmen and sophomores in on (main) campus housing now, they could go to 1,404 for Class of 2023 and accommodate the same amount next fall. They already took a fraternity house (and chapter) away from a fraternity who could not fill up its beds. That’s another source. I am not an insider. If you know that Emory is disappointed in going over 1350 the past three years, then maybe you know more than others.
@ljberkow
The CDS profile says 1388 exactly, which is class of 2021. If admissions says they are overenrolled/overcapacity. Then I assume it was a mistake to enroll so many students.
@bernie12
Yes, exactly for student teacher ratio. Students need to get the classes they need. And if Emory didn’t care they wouldn’t cap classes at 19 students. Administration cares more about ranking than students do. That was apparent when I went to the infrastructure meeting.
@emorynavy Emory’s own website has 1,404 as enrolled for class of 2021.
http://news.emory.edu/stories/2017/08/er_bts_class_of_2021_by_the_numbers/
They do the profiles in late August. If 16 didn’t show up, it’s not because they weren’t expected.
You say you will be disappointed if they go over 1260-1280. You should prepare yourself for disappointment. This is not something they will turn back on. If they yield lower than they expect, maybe there will be a low of 1375. I wouldn’t count on that.
Are you familiar with the Emory and Tibet program and its many offerings?
This may tie in well with your interest in meditation and contemplative studies.
Hello all, I will be applying to Emory RD! Can someone help me out with the following question found on CommonApp? “Does your school or school district adjust grades for AP/IB/Honors courses?” What does this mean?
Some schools will assign a 5 for an A in an AP/IB class but only a 4 for an A for the same class without the AP/IB designation in computing a student’s high school GPA.
E.g. Johnny gets an A in AP Physics, which counts as a 5 in computing his GPA.
Jerry gets an A in Physics, which counts as a 4 in computing his GPA.
Does your school weigh AP/IB classes more heavily?
Ahh, I get it now. Yes, it does. Thanks for the clarification!
My daughter’s high school used a more complex weighting scheme. To get 5 grade points in an honors or AP course, you would need an honors (H) grade of 97 or more. An “A” in one of those classes was worth 4.5 grade points, and a B was worth 3.5 grade points. In non-AP/honors classes, an A is worth the traditional 4 pts, a B 3 pts., etc.
In part to avoid penalizing kids who took “regular” classes because there was no AP or Honors equivalent, the District did away with class rank 2 years ago and went to the “cum laude” designation. This seems to be a trend nationwide.
@heybokey I’m pretty sure the school report that your high school sends out with your counselor rec
will clarify this as well
That’s an extremely complicated formula and also not always necessary in that many colleges go ahead and rely on unweighted GPAs precisely to avoid treating non honors students unfairly.
Texas offers automatic admissions to the Univ of Texas based on high school GPA. The top 7% or so from each high school are admitted automatically without regard to SAT/ACT, extracurriculars, quality of high school or whether the high school is public/private. So there class rankings really do matter and high schools keep a close watch on them.
I agree. You get lots of kids with GPAs of more than 4.0, though only the ones that get H’s in AP/Honors classes can have GPAs approaching 5.0. I do think in some ways its important to distinguish the student who gets an A in high school physics with a student who averages near 100 percent in an AP physics class. But it’s got to be awfully confusing for admissions officers!
@economomto3 : “I do think in some ways its important to distinguish the student who gets an A in high school physics with a student who averages near 100 percent in an AP physics class.”
Not too sure about this. This is why it is important to send good SAT 2s, APs, or demonstrate aptitude and interest in physics beyond AP. For example, it would be kind of wasteful to distinguish between a 94 and 100 if both then got a 5 on the test. Now, if one had a 5 and did research or other activities in physics (whether they are the 94 or 100 doesn’t matter), that may be more useful. Both scores indicate that they care about achievement and are high achieving…then what? How far does one go beyond getting an A in the course?
I am pretty sure that Emory recalculates the GPAs of all students based on its own system where certain courses (non-academic) aren’t even counted. They also have weights for different high schools and private schools. They know the difference in grades from just about every school. From listening to admissions presentations, they seem to like high AP exam scores from students taking AP courses.
What more did admissions officers say about Emory and high AP scores? I have three kids and none of them even sent AP scores to the colleges until after they were accepted. Our high school does not encourage this.
@marcymar you self report them on the Common app.
Emory like many schools accept self reported AP scores on the common app but once you’re admitted they will verify.
@marcymar Have you attended an Emory info session? They definitely encourage sending AP exam scores. I care more about what the colleges say than what a HS says.
@ljberkow tpu don’t have to spend the money to send the scores until admitted, you can self report them on the common app. We were never told to send official scores by Mark Butt. Same with SAT scores, you just self report them.
I know. I was replying to a comment where someone mentioned none of their kids sent in scores to colleges. Emory wants the scores. It’s not important how they get them. What is very important to them is that a candidate can demonstrate they can do Emory level course work and good AP exam scores are a good indicator of that. I believe I heard of from Mark Butt as well.