<p>Emory: Didn't get much financial aid at all. Would have to take out massive loans.
Villanova: Full Ride</p>
<p>Business- I know they're both very good, but wondering about job placement / recruiting.</p>
<p>Is taking out eventually 80K in loans worth it if Villanova is free?</p>
<p>You’re joking right? or do you just want confirmation? Um, yea, Villanova FTW</p>
<p>and for what it’s worth, I know graduating seniors at Emory-Goizueta who can’t even get interviews for jobs this year.</p>
<p>80k is a lot, but an Emory degree is definitely worth more than a Villanova degree. I have never even heard of Villanova. It really depends, on your preference and do you think the 80k is worth it. It sounds like you would rather go to Emory, but the FA is giving you some problems. Did you apply for scholarships? You can try and apply next year and perhaps get a bit more aid. Also, does Emory give you more aid if you have a high gpa (I dunno)? Have you applied for work study? Research the options and see what you get, I’m not familiar with either Villanova or Emory, even though I’ll probably end up at Emory this fall =). Good luck!</p>
<p>@ Rodney
I bet the same can be said for people who graduated from Villanova’s business school.</p>
<p>The fact is BS degrees aren’t worth a lot now. Everyone has them. Heck even people with graduate degree in business have a hard time finding job in this economy.</p>
<p>Linnus: actually if you are not familiar with either school, not sure how you can comment (and how you were accepted to Emory if you were not familiar with the school? typical Emory admissions).</p>
<p>Yes, there are business schools all over the US where kids are having trouble getting interviews, but if the OP is spending $80,000 more to go to EMory, he should be aware that he is not necessarily getting “more for his money” over Villanova.</p>
<p>Linnus: are you from the south? because up north, most have never heard of emory and although emory is ranked 5 and villanova 11 in terms of b-schools, villanova seems to have more of a draw on wall street, etc.</p>
<p>I’m just really confused because I know that Emory is a better university, but I’m not sure that its 80K of debt better.</p>
<p>^^you got it: It’s not worth $80,000 more…Now, if you had a full ride at Emory or even if the differential was less than $15,000, I’d say you had a decision, but, no, Villanova has a great reputation in the NE…you can’t go wrong.</p>
<p>Definitely Villanova. Without a single question. </p>
<p>Villanova is a great school. Undergraduate isn’t that important. You’ll be able to succeed more at Villanova, and I’m assuming you’re in their Honors program, unless they don’t have one…</p>
<p>There are ~$10,000 scholarships that you can get at Emory after freshman year, so that can help you. I don’t know anything about Villanova though.</p>
<p>@ rodney
It is not necessary to attack Emory’s admission process. Familiarity is a relative term. Just because I did a 10 hour research on Emory does not mean I’m familiar with the school. I’ll consider myself to be familiar with the school after I attend the school for at least a semester. How “familiar” are you with both schools?</p>
<p>Anyways back on topic.
My sister goes to NYU…and she also has never heard of Villanova, but she has heard of Emory. My friends from CA have heard of Emory, but not Villanova. Emory’s Business School is definitely not ranked 5th. 9th according to Business News and 12th according to US News I believe. Jobs at Wall Street is quite competitive, especially in this economy. You really think you can get a good job at Wall Street with a business degree from Villanova with all the Stern, Wharton, Salon, etc kids? </p>
<p>What I am saying is that, research and see if it is possible to make the education at Emory cheaper. If not, then Villanova is probably a better choice, after all you going to business school. The point is to be rich after you graduate, not to be in debt.</p>
<p>Rodney your ignorant and bombastic and well wrong. Last year 98% percent had job 3 months before graduating from emory business school. So please tell me what source your using bc mine is businessweek</p>
<p>Linnus Emory’s bschool was ranked 5th by business week last year. Also if you look at the raw scores for this year there is a huge drop off after the 9th school (which is Emory). </p>
<p>At the OP</p>
<p>[The</a> Top Undergraduate Business Programs](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/?chan=magazine+channel_special+report]The”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/?chan=magazine+channel_special+report)</p>
<p>businessweek has Villanova ranked 11th with a recruiting rank of 26 vs Emory which is ranked 9th with a recruiting rank of 24. I wouldn’t say that’s a big enough difference to justify 80k in loans</p>
<p>Yes, I know Emory was ranked 5th last year, but I was talking about this year.</p>
<p>keels: Emory’s bschool is much more respected on wall street than Villanova’s. Additionally, alumni support is very strong. If you have a decent gpa, solid extracurriculars, and network you shouldn’t have difficult time getting interviews. also consider that this is the worst job market in recent history, and things are bound to get better by the time you start looking for work. If you’re dead set on wall street, then the school you go to make’s a huge difference and I would definitely pick Emory.</p>
<p>Go to Villanova.</p>
<p>I’m most likely going to Emory next year and I’m willing to forgo that bias. Still deciding between Emory and Michigan. </p>
<p>Emory may be ranked higher and be more of an academic school, but Villanova is still a really good private school with a great name. Villanova probably has a better name in the northeast to be honest. </p>
<p>And to go for free! I’m really concerned about how I’m going to pay for college, so to have the chance to go for free to a private school would be AWESOME.</p>
<p>However, keep in mind that Villanova is a mostly white, Catholic school. Emory is definitely more diverse. While it has a majority white and Jewish presence, it still has a very large percentage of black and asian students for a private university.</p>
<p>Keels23,</p>
<p>Most typically, I never advise a student to choose one school over the other, and I won’t do so now. However, what I will do is to have you ask yourself a number of pertinent questions: What kind of college experience am I seeking? How truly important is the financial funding of the education, and what can my family afford? Where am I going to be most happy and at what cost?</p>
<p>The only way in which you will be able to determine your liking for a school is to visit the campus. I believe that it makes a big difference and can even be a determinant factor. When you visit, try to engage with the students and the professors. Get into the mix and ask them honest questions – you’ll likely get honest (albeit subjective) responses.</p>
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I can see how you feel that this is indeed a SERIOUS question (and far from joking), because every year there are many students who consider the same question. </p>
<p>In my estimation, and admitting to some bias, I think Emory is a better national research university. By comparison, Villanova is what I would consider a good regional university, drawing most of its students from the Tri-State area (I believe mostly from NJ). The resources at Emory are much greater than Villanova. (The comparative endowment figures (based on last year’s numbers, which have decreased across the board for all colleges) had Emory at over $5 Billion vs. Villanova’s $335 Million, even though the number of undergrad students are essentially the same. </p>
<p>If your intent is to get a BBA, then I think either school will provide the fundamental education you need. The tangible differences are probably not significant. Both undergraduate business programs are sound, and both are situated relatively close to urban business centers (Radnor Township is about 30 minutes from downtown Philadelphia, and Emory is about 15 minutes from downtown Atlanta.) </p>
<p>Aside from the tangible aspects, I think it’s important to consider the intangibles as well. To me (and perhaps not to you), I like the diversity at Emory, and I dislike the relative lack of diversity at Villanova. Although I am a Presbyterian (and therefore Christian, though one who is open-minded, tolerant, pantheistic-leaning, and non-evangelical), I would feel uncomfortable with Villanova because it’s strongly Catholic-based. The typical profile of a student is a Tri-State Italian or Irish Catholic, and although not all students are Catholic, there’s a religious doctrine that pervades the school. The most distinctive building on campus is their chapel, and it sets the tone (and reminder) of those aspects of Catholic dogma important to the trustees of Villanova. In the same vein, while I have nothing against Brigham Young University (and yes, I have Mormon friends), I would be hesitant to attend BYU because I’m not Mormon … same goes for Baylor University because I’m not Baptist, etc., etc. This is something you should consider because many of us are flexible and adaptive, but often we are less so whereas our values/morals are concerned. The overall demographics of the student body is lacking in diversity, and it definitely has a “white Catholic” feel to it, not inconsistent with Radnor Township, which is almost 90% white.</p>
<p>My daughter is now a junior at Emory, and when we began a discussion of college during her high school years, we looked closely at the Philadelphia area because I have a sister who has lived in the area for 30+ years, and I thought that if my daughter did attend school on the East Coast, it’d be nice to have family nearby. My brother’s daughter thought the same way, and she even turned down a good scholarship with a Philadelphia-area college to eventually stay in California, which is where I live (SF Bay Area). We looked at all the good Philadelphia schools, and if I (not my daughter) were to rate them, I would put them in this order: UPenn, Swarthmore, Haverford, Bryn Mawr … Villanova fell off our list quickly (even though my sister once lived very nearby in King of Prussia, and now lives about 20 minutes away). My daughter and her best friend from HS had a secret pact that they would both apply and attend Swarthmore, but upon closer examination, it just seemed “too intense”, per my daughter. I liked Penn, but she did not like the particular urban setting. My daughter landed at Emory, and her friend now attends Stanford. Again, there’s tremendous value in visiting campuses.</p>
<p>Each year, there are students who turn down one school for another because of cost factors. That’s just reality. However, EACH student’s situation and circumstances are different. Emory is among the elite colleges in the country, and yet they are not among the most elite, i.e., the upper tier of the Ivy brand schools. Each year, students who are offered a full-ride Emory Scholars Program award eventually turn it down to attend one of the HYPS schools. And honestly, I don’t think that it’s just for a “prestige” reason.</p>
<p>Conversely, I have personally known students who have taken advantage of say an Emory scholarship and turned down Harvard or Yale because they had every reason to believe they were going to get a top-notch education at Emory. The ultimate determining factors in getting a good education will be a student’s diligence, perseverance and conscientiousness to seek excellence.</p>
<p>One final note, my daughter was offered a very generous offer from a university out of state. The temptation was there to accept it, but we both knew it just wasn’t the right school for her. Money is important, but you will find in your later life, that it is not everything. Ask yourself, “What do I want?” Good luck.</p>
<p>Almost forgot … go take a look at all the YouTube videos re. Emory (especially the Undergraduate Experience and those dealing with Goiueta BBA): <a href=“http://www.youtube.com/user/EmoryUniversity[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/user/EmoryUniversity</a></p>
<p>Villanova, without a doubt.</p>
<p>I’m in grad school now (expensive!!!) and I know that the single best decision I’ve ever made was doing undergrad at the college that gave me a free ride. I was fortunate enough for that college to be Emory. I love the school, and would recommend it to anyone as a great place to spend four years. BUT I understand that most families have to take finances into account. Having a lot of debt can make a big difference in your life for a long time…and not in a good way.</p>
<p>PS-- Clearly the people who’ve never heard of Villanova have never watched a game of college basketball in their lives.</p>