<p>It's been a while since I've posted a real question on here - wow. </p>
<p>Anyways, tried finding something on the thread and couldn't. I'm thinking of taking some Multivariable Calc this year. Heard from reviews that ENAS 151 is better than Math 120, but some people said 120 was fine. I don't doubt it, but was just wondering if I can get some more info from students.</p>
<p>How engineering-focused is ENAS 151 and is more time spent applying the concepts or learning them? Do you learn the same things? Is the only difficult part of Math 120 the tests (which is what it seems)? Gracias in advance!</p>
<p>Math 120 is an easier class until the final, but the teaching quality is terrible unless you get Michael Frame’s section. The problem sets in ENAS 151 can be demoralizing in their length, and are usually very repetitive. Most people who took it thought the class was good, and that Grober was a great professor, but I found that he was a tad arrogant and not an exceptional teacher. He has no true gift for lecturing, aside from the ability to speak English clearly. You do learn slightly different things - ENAS 151 covers a couple applications useful to engineering, while Math 120 covers a tad more of the theory behind multivariable calculus - but it’s not very consequential in the end. </p>
<p>If you just want a straight recommendation, go for Frame’s class, and if you don’t get it (just show up really early to math preregistration and you should), go for ENAS 151.</p>
<p>So, it’s just the final that makes Math 120 difficult? Are the tests “easier” in ENAS 151?
(Not sure if you can comment on that.)
THANKS for the response! :)</p>
<p>You need to get there about an hour and a half or so before registration opens. You’d be amazed at how long the line is even an hour or half an hour before registration opens. It’s absurd!</p>
<p>Math 120 has easier midterms and a harder final, while ENAS has less variation between the two. In both cases, though, the last exam will be the hardest. Also, note that I can’t comment on curves, but as far as I could tell, Math 120 has smarter math students in a small percentage at the top of the class, while ENAS has a greater number of highly adept engineering students (who may not be at the level of math genius but are more competent than the average 120 student). Like I said, though, I think you should try to get into Frame’s section if you can, and if not, settle for ENAS 151 as the consolation prize.</p>
<p>Yeah, an hour and half before the stated start time is a good idea. It’s absolutely moronic that the math department doesn’t use the random lotteries that other departments use to allocate class slots (they may have changed it for your year, I’m not sure - advice is assuming they didn’t), but you’ll have to live with it. The preregistration meeting is during freshman orientation - either your freshman handbook or the materials they give you when you move in should say when.</p>
<p>So, I won’t be able to do Michael Frame’s section because of Genetics. However, the reviews say that Conor Frailey is good also. Any experience with him?</p>
<p>Thanks for all the info so far guys! Really appreciate it. Still not sure I’ll do math this semester anyways, but if I’m going to take ENAS, I might as well take it this semester instead of next year, since they don’t offer it in the fall.</p>
<p>I took ENAS 151 last fall with Grober. It was a good class. The homework sets/midterms feel very fair if you do the readings and pay attention. The final was a tad more difficult but the class is curved decently. Overall you come out of 151 knowing how to solve problems and think analytically, which is what you want out of a multi class. 120 with Frame is supposed to be good, but their final is definitely slightly easier (used old 120 finals to practice) and I’ve heard the class is less interesting. That said, the material is essentially the same.</p>
<p>Also, I have it on good authority that Professor Smooke (who typically teaches ENAS 194 in the spring) will be teaching ENAS 151 spring term next year. You can wait until spring semester if you don’t have time to take 151 now with Grober.</p>
<p>I guess so? I was using some old Math 120 finals to practice for the 151 final and they seemed easier, but that could of course be due to lack of pressure while I was doing therm.</p>
<p>ah, yale students here. i think this might be a good place to ask this question:</p>
<p>typical humanities student with pretty average ability in math/sci- had i taken the Calc BC AP, might have gotten a 5 but not without a good deal of effort. I’m thinking of taking Fundamentals of Neuroscience for my science, if I can get it…how much bio/chem is involved? I had bio/chem in HS and did fine, but not spectacularly. I am however fascinated by the class. Also considering Basics of Learning and Memory though apparently i would need permission of instructor</p>
<p>Along similar lines, how is the intro to cogsci class? couldnt find any course evaluations online, so it would be a great help to hear about it. </p>
<p>And if anyone feels like being very helpful- any good recommendations for Sci classes? i dont think i want a very gutty gut, but still something manageable and mildly interesting.</p>
<p>I haven’t taken neuro or cogsci, but I have non-science friends who said that cogsci was a decent amount work with moderately difficult exams, but also very interesting. Have you heard of Philosophy of Physics (Phil283)? It’s supposed to be a fairly interesting/easier sci class - you get psets and also write essays on philosophy. I’ve also heard intro anthropology is very doable, and the intro astronomy courses.</p>
<p>Shop Intro to CogSci and see if the professor is good - she’s new, and sometime new professors are better teachers (less jaded by academia and so forth), but honestly, unless you are entranced by her lecturing ability, I’d recommend waiting until Brian Scholl teaches it next year.</p>
<p>Don’t do Anthro or Astronomy for your Science credits unless they really interest you, or you’re awful at science. If you have science skills and you’re not interested in the subject, the class will be really boring and you might not even get an A because you pay zero attention and/or stop going or trying on the assignments.</p>