<p>How are the colleges in the US News list of colleges where a doctorate is not offered in engineering viewed in comparison to colleges on the list where a doctorate is offered?</p>
<p>Where would universities such as Baylor and San Jose State rank on an overall list of schools? 30? or more like 130?</p>
<p>In that case UTPB and Stanford are no different from one another… </p>
<p>What I’m asking is would the difference in Baylor (#13 on the nondoctorate list) be viewed the same on a grad school or job application as UT (#10 on the doctorate list)?</p>
<p>Believe it or not, OP, the first two responders are correct. It makes little difference which engineering school you attend. The curriculum in any field of engineering is pretty much the same from one school to another. It’s going to suck anywhere you go. Stanford might suck more than UTPB, but that doesn’t mean you’re getting a better education. Students are stuck on prestige, when the only thing that matters to employers is what the engineer did during his or her education, what skillsets they picked up, where they interned and what they learned there, what their GPA was, evidence they work well in groups, a sense that it won’t take the hire a year to come upto speed. Can the most prestigious CS companies afford to be selective in hiring? Sure, to the extent that both candidates have the skill sets, personality, and GPAs, they can choose the CMU grad over the Penn State grad. The rest of the u/g majors aren’t that different from engineering, frankly. Expensive schools are better than inexpensive schools at helping the weaker students to survive the rigor and offer more shiny doodads to the dashboard. </p>
<p>Some schools have on-campus recruiting in selective industries and companies. Generally, these would be the top 5-10 schools in a discipline that a researcher or company has had a good experience with in terms of grads (for instance, one poster on here says he targets Cooper Union, Michigan, Illinois, Cornell, and MIT for his East-Coast lab).
Outside that, I don’t think there’s much difference.</p>
<p>BTW, I assume you mean engineering, not CS. CS curriculums are not standardized and there’s a fair bit of variation in how rigorous different schools are (and some private elites do not offer a lot while other elites and many good state schools do).</p>
<p>BTW, it’s not so much that going to CMU would give you an edge over a school that isn’t known for CS once you get an interview, but that the top software companies may not go to interview at, say, Baylor (they may at PSU).</p>
<p>Also, location may matter. So SJSU CS places very well in Silicon Valley because it’s located right there (don’t know much about SJSU engineering).</p>
<p>For grad school, I don’t think it much matters. The top research universities would have bigger name faculty, though. That may matter only if you impress enough in upper-level courses and research that one of those profs writes you a glowing rec.</p>
<p>I don’t think it matters. My D goes to a LAC that has an engineering program (so no masters/doctorate is offered) and people seem to do very well in terms of getting jobs and getting into good grad schools.</p>
<p>Okay, then I might have to expand the schools I’ look into. Thanks for the input!</p>
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<p>This is not exactly true. While any ABET-accredited engineering degree program will be rigorous, the courses and curricula may be organized differently across different schools, which may affect how well each school fits the student. Some of the more unusual ways of organizing courses and curricula exist at WPI and Olin, for example. A few schools may have extra rigor in their courses and curricula (Caltech and Harvey Mudd, for example). Also, different schools may emphasize different subareas within each major, which can affect what type of in-major electives are offered. H/SS requirements and available courses also vary between schools (and rigor of such courses can vary significantly more than rigor of required engineering courses).</p>
<p>For employment, recruiting tends to be better at local schools and non-local schools which are better known for engineering. Size also matters – a school with a large number of engineering majors may be seen as being more worth a recruiting trip by an employer looking to hire engineering majors than a school with few engineering majors.</p>
<p>For admission to PhD programs, obviously it would help to get some undergraduate research resulting in a good recommendation from a faculty member who is respected by those at the PhD school. However, it may be difficult to find which undergraduate schools are “better” than others in this respect (and each PhD school and its faculty may have different opinions on which undergraduate schools produce good PhD students).</p>