<p>Woah, before you take about human rights in Saidi Arabia, why dont you consider the history of human rights in America? Remember Rosewood, Dred Scott, the White Primary etc? As far as women rights go, America doesnt have a good history to brag about. African American women were sent to JAILS of white men, where they were raped. Property of men went to their sons rather than their wives. They were deprived of quality education men had and they got the right to vote AFTER African American men. I know, human rights here is better than in Arabia now, but there is no need to b1tch about it cause things were much worse in American history as far as women's rights were concerned.</p>
<p>
[quote]
By western standards Saudi women face severe discrimination in many aspects of their lives, including education, employment, and the justice system. Women are not allowed to drive or ride bicycles on public roads in large cities. However, many women are capable of driving, and do so on rural roads. Family decisions are also largely made by the women. Education although limited has become an important aspect. Religious police enforce a modest code of dress, sometimes even asking American Armed Services women to cover their heads. In recent years however, many foreigners residing in the Kingdom have reported that enforcement of dress code laws have become less strict. Institutions from schools to ministries to restaurants are always gender-segregated.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>So you want me to refer to the above copied from the wiki website. .
It's not that bad, why not. In fact, I think a member here on CC, a non-muslim female member, went and lived there for 3 months and didn't find it that "awful" either. Even if it's not exactly US-approved, it doesn't mean that people have the right to make fun of them and try to install their way of thinking on them. If i was forced to go there, right now, this minute, I really wouldn't be all that upset, in fact, I want to go there my senior winter break. This is coming from someone who's lived in the US and it's "freedoms" for almost 16 years.</p>
<p>you asked what i have against saudi arabia. are you saying that despite that link, you still see no difference between it and the US? </p>
<p>ok... how about the complete lacking of religious freedom in saudi arabia compared to the religious influence in saudi dakota?</p>
<p>wasnt south dakota the place that wanted to rename itself "Dakota" to help its tourism?</p>
<p>you guys are offended at the OP's connection between saudi arabia's policies and south dakota's. i see the connection he was trying to make, but you guys seem to want to cry up a PC river. boohoooo</p>
<p>OP said: "Darth Cheney should take the Saudi Dakota legislators who voted for this on a hunting trip."</p>
<p>I myself am deeply offended on behalf of darth vadar.</p>
<p>woah guys .. woah.
this is becoming an unnecessary argument . . no we don't have to ignore taffy just because s/he doesn't agree and yes both countries have a continuing history of poor human rights, and both are wronged in various decisions, but I just didn't see a need to make fun of an islamic country because a certain freedom is taken away in some united states state.</p>
<p>Things were not worse in America than in Saudi Arabia, you <strong><em>ing *</em></strong>**.</p>
<p>Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.</p>
<p>The religious police are widely feared in Saudi Arabia. They roam the streets enforcing dress codes and sex segregation, and ensuring prayers are performed on time.</p>
<p>Those who refuse to obey their orders are often beaten and sometimes put in jail. </p>
<p>
[quote]
Woah, before you take about human rights in Saidi Arabia, why dont you consider the history of human rights in America?
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Wait, so let me get this straight... Because human rights violations occur in the US, it's okay for Saudis to commit acts of cruelty upon its citizens?</p>
<p>
[quote]
Remember Rosewood, Dred Scott, the White Primary etc? As far as women rights go, America doesnt have a good history to brag about.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Notice how these issues are things that were brought up as issues and are still being dealt with. Last time I checked, there isn't any legal segreation in the US anymore.</p>
<p>And women can drive in the US. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, and they don't have to live in fear of being stoned.</p>
<p>And we don't have public executions.</p>
<p>
[quote]
but there is no need to b1tch about it cause things were much worse in American history as far as women's rights were concerned.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>This is plain foolish. This is basically saying that because another country had problems similar to CONTEMPORARY issues, that we should just ignore the issues in that country. So then why should we criticise the US if discrimination against Muslims occur? </p>
<p>JamesN, you don't seem to realize how dangerous your line of thinking is for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. It basically holds nobody to any standards at all.</p>
<p>By the way, the OP engaged in an incredibly silly example of hyperbole. American liberals love to talk about how America is soooo bad and soooo restricted, but forget that there's a great big world out there that is full of wonderful countries where you can be executed for badmouthing the leadership (North Korea for example).</p>
<p>Actually, in the Star Wars universe, there was very little direct discrimination against women by the Empire. While they were not treated with the same level of respect as they were by the Rebels, they were not openly oppressed or reduced in stature.</p>
<p>Yes, I'm a nerd. But at least I answered the question.</p>