Excellent Public Schools For Safety

Student Lounge International Students
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<p>Salutations everybody.</p>

<p>Lately, all I've been doing is altering, and reprioritising my college list. As many suggested, I broke it down to 3 categories; safety, match and reach. I know what I am capable of and I know what is far-fetched. </p>

<p>At the moment I only have one college on my safety-category. I have been tirelessly searching for good SMALL, not COSTLY, EXCELLENT LACs. But have sort of failed in doing so.</p>

<p>If you don't mind listing your SAFETY schools, please do so. I would do research on them and might take them in consideration.</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

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<p>Here's a list of LACs which give a lot of aid to international students.
But most of them can't be called 'safety' schools......</p>

<p>Format:-
Number (from highest ranked to lowest). COLLEGE NAME -- No of intels receiving aid (total amt given)</p>

<p>1.Williams College (need-blind) -- 102 ($3,529,781)
2.Amherst College (need-blind) -- 65 ($2,493,091)
3.Swarthmore College -- 46 ($1,719,975)
3.Carleton College -- 73 ($1,901,750)
4.Bowdoin College -- 37 ($1,244,585)
5.Wesleyan University -- 50 ($1,971,231)
6.Vassar College -- 114 ($4,168,310)
7. Washington and Lee University -- 59 ($1,682,339)
8.Colgate University -- 126 ($4,534,067)
9. Grinnell College -- 155 ($3,639,126)
10. Hamilton College -- 89 ($3,096,613)
11. Smith College -- 104 ($3,816,526)
12. Colby College -- 111 ($4,418,894)
14. Oberlin College -- 161 (4,667,767)
15. Macalester College -- 210 ($4,428,038)
16. Lafayette College -- 119 ($4,064,161)
17. Kenyon College -- 40 ($1,428,216)
18. University of Richmond -- 85 ($2,726,300)
19. Union College -- 34 ($1,082,331)
20. Whitman College -- 41 ($1,230,000)
21. Bard College -- 115 ($3,004,225)
22. Franklin and Marshall College -- 129 ($3,553,390)
23. Dickinson College -- 90 ($2,586,673)
24. Gettysburg College -- 30 ($890,427)
25. Reed College -- 40 ($1,578,527)</p>

<p>For the correct rankings and to research for 'safety' LACs please go to
<a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1libartco_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1libartco_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And use College Board's College search function to find out how much aid a college gives to internationals.</p>

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<p>these are all PRIVATE, selective schools?</p>

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<p>^^
yep :)
and so are the ones listed in the link I posted.</p>

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<p>hence they're expensive...:S</p>

<p>hmmm.</p>

<p>do u know any good PUBLICS schools? they don't even have to be LACS</p>

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<p>i'm just tired of browsing through college books and websites.</p>

<p>if u gimme a list, then maybe i'd be a little more motivated to research them. :D</p>

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<p>The top public schools are probably UMich (er, Michigan), UC Berkeley and UCLA, UVA (Virginia), UNC at Chapel Hill. They're all very competitive and not exactly super-cheap, though.</p>

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<p>oh I thought you wanted a list of LACs.
And they aren't really that expensive if you get fin. aid.
I'm sorry though, I have almost nil knowledge about public schools.</p>

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<p>noldo- berkeley is on my reach. and i know that it is a FAR FAR reach for intl students, but it wont hurt to try.</p>

<p>but international student's can't get financial aid aritct?</p>

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<p>as far as i know</p>

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<p>I am sorry to say that you are severely misinformed **.
The list I posted is relevant **only to international students and the figures and numbers are all of international students.
For example :-
When I wrote this
Vassar College -- 114 ($4,168,310) </p>

<p>I meant Vassar College has awarded a total of $4,168,310 to 114 International students.
That means that Vassar's average aid is
$4,168,310/114 = $36564 per International student who receives aid.
Meaning if you get the average aid award, you would have to pay around 8000-10000 dollars a year including traveling to the US and personal expenses...</p>

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<p>wow. i was TREMENDOUSLY misinformed.</p>

<p>but i mistook the financial aid as the FAFSA... which i know intl students can't apply for.</p>

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<p>anyways for public, Try LSU (Louisiana State U). It offers FULL TUITION SCHOLARSHIPS.
also, Berea College (which isn't public, but then again it isn't high ranked)</p>

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<p>but there are criterias that these intl students must meet in order to get aid award no?</p>

<p>can a student just be average in academics and still receive these awards?
or does she or he have to be overly-exceptional to be considered?</p>

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<p>"(need-blind) -- 102 ($3,529,781) "</p>

<p>what do you mean by need-blind?</p>

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<p>First, need-blind means that a college will NOT look at your financial situation( i.e. whether you applied for aid or not) when they consider your application.
That means, if you are accepted you're going to get as much aid as you need.</p>

<p>Second,
ALL the other colleges offer NEED-BASED financial aid.
Which means, the college will look at your family's financial situation and then calculate how much financial aid you require. If they admit you, you will receive that 'calculated' amount of aid.</p>

<p>There are no general criterias, although it has been observed that in MOST liberal arts colleges, the internationals who apply for financial aid and the ones who apply without requesting financial aid are considered in different pools.</p>

<p>Since you fall in the first category, yes, I admit, it is quite difficult to get financial aid. The sole reason for this is because colleges usually have a limited budget for international students and thus they take only the most competitive/qualified students and award financial aid to them.</p>

<p>For example, if you apply to a college like Swarthmore, the competition for financial aid is going to be cut-throat, while it may not necessarily be so at a lower ranked college.
So when you apply, make sure you apply to as many schools you can, and have a few reaches and matches. (There are really no safeties for an international student who needs a lot of aid, unless of course you look at really BAD colleges)</p>

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<p>It depends on what your definition of 'average' is.</p>

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<p>arit. please post as much as you can about financial aid for international students that I KNOW i have been misinformed about.</p>

<p>i am a novice at this and I'm sure you know a LOT more about it than i do.</p>

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<p>i see that you are from india. which universities did you apply to ?</p>

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<p>In addition colleges that do offer Need Blind admission for internationals are typically colleges that are extremely competitive to get into (MIT, Yale, Harvard, Princeton and Williams come to mind, I think Middlebury's also Need Blind). However even Need Blind colleges will (although they won't consider your finances) group you in the International pool and in some cases (eg: MIT) they have a limit on the number of Internationals that they accept. This is as they have a limited budget for Aid for internationals and hence they can only admit so many (MIT admits about 100)</p>

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<p>So what else do you want to know?</p>

<p>If you wish to apply for financial aid, you will need to submit two forms. The International Student Certification of Finances and The International Student Financial Aid Application which are available at the sites of all the colleges that I mentioned.
Also, you will have to send your parent's most recent tax return forms and a bank statement verifying your parent's savings.</p>