Fabulous IB Diploma, mediocre SATs

<p>I am one of those students that do well academically at schools yet seem to have a hard time churning out wonderful SAT scores. </p>

<p>For example, for my IB diploma, I am expecting a 43/44 out of 45 when I graduate. </p>

<p>But I got under 650 for SAT LIT, over 700 yet under 750 for SAT Math IIC.
My SAT I was about 2100 but I have a new one coming in June 26th. </p>

<p>It's strange because I do well in Eng. classes (6 for HL English A1) and do really well in math (7 for HL Math) but that doesn't reflect on my SAT grades. </p>

<p>Would this HURT my chances in getting into some top schools like Yale, Brown, Amherst, Carleton.. etc?? I am looking at Math & Eng & Theatre arts major.</p>

<p>Yes it would. IB, and for that matter, AP scores don't matter nearly as much as standardized tests.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, I agree with Ray. I would say study your arse off. Take the ACT if you can, give it a try.</p>

<p>a 2100 is an excellent score. Anyone who says differently is wrong/</p>

<p>of course, if wouldn't hurt to raise it a little.</p>

<p>okay thanks for your replies.</p>

<p>but one thing I don't get is that AP and IB is a standardized exams as well. Very reliable markers mark these exams. So why won't it affect as much... ?</p>

<p>So let's just say that the SAT scores increased. But the old scores remain, right? So how much would the old SAT scores hurt my application even though I improved +100 points?</p>

<p>44/43 out of 45...you are a freak...jk</p>

<p>I believe the schools only see your Diploma scores after you've been accepted. (the summer after senior) since I think you can only take HL tests during May of Senior year. That being said, a good standardized test score is something they look at, try to retake the test (possibly studying from a prep book) or take the ACT. The IB program will be a plus (as well as AP's), but SAT's might be more prominent during the application time period. Fellow IB veteran here too!</p>

<p>IB scores are worth more than SATs, but colleges will undoubtedly wonder why your SATs were low. It certainly wouldn't hurt to take them again in the fall, and you'll definitely have time to do so.</p>

<p>I'm an IBer too, and your IB scores are fantastic so I actually wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Was there a reason for the inconsistency? A note might work, in that case.</p>

<p>A 2100 SAT isn't impressive for places like Yale.
There are tens of thousands of students who are in IB programs, and intensive AP programs (which top colleges view in the same way as IB). Being in IB won't make you stand out when it comes to places like Yale, where the large majority of applicants have rigorous curricula including those offered from IB, AP-intensive, and very competitive public and prep schools.</p>

<p>Apply to places like Yale, of course, if you'd like to have a chance to go there. However, see such places as longshots, and make sure that you have match and safety schools that you can afford and would love to attend.</p>

<p>Keep in mind, too, that accepted students to places like Yale also have stellar ECs that tend to go far beyond things like being SGA president. Check the Yale, Amherst, etc. forums on CC to see the backgrounds of accepted and rejected students.</p>

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<p>thanks everyone!</p>

<p>umm what is a SGA president?</p>

<p>SGA prez = student government association president -- something that doesn't stand out in Ivy application pools because so many SGA presidents apply that what stands out is being something like being the sole student member of one's district's school board or being president of the national board of National Honor Society (i.e. not being president of one's school NHS).</p>

<p>I don't understand how you can be "expecting" 43 out of 44 on your IB diploma, if you have just finished your junior year. You have taken at most 3 SL IB exams, and I don't think you can have the scores back yet. You won't know what your overall scores are until the end of senior year. You will get a "predicted" IB score, but it is my understanding that US colleges don't give this a great deal of consideration; rather, they will look at your letter grades. On the other hand, those SAT scores are good, and will be even better if you can raise them by taking them again.</p>

<p>Top schools say that the transcript is the number one factor in admission. So if your grades in IB classes match your projected test scores, I think you are in good shape, provided you have ECs and essays that match. If your SAT was high and your grades low, I would be more worried since that may be viewed as a lack of effort. However, I agree with the other posters on the unfortunate timeline for applications. Colleges will not see your senior IB or AP scores, and will not know whether you earned an IB diploma until after you have been accepted.</p>

<p>when I say "expected", it was my grade for last semester of Junior year. Yeah, I have yet to get the predicted scores for IB, but our school marks the subjects from 1-7 JUST like the IB. We don't get 'letter' grades from A-F kinda thing. </p>

<p>As a side note, in our school, IB is literally a two-year course. I started taking all my SL and HL in my junior year and will take all exams for 7 subjects ( I take one extra) in May next year. </p>

<p>Okay, let me re-phrase my question: good school grades (that would be equivalent to 43/44 out of 45 in IB) and mediocre SAT scores. Does that change much? (don't think so).</p>

<p>2100 is pretty good. And also grades > SAT in general.</p>

<p>Don't worry that much.</p>

<p>Another IB kid here. Though I also did AP. I got a 2100 and am attending Harvard this fall. So there is always a chance. Make sure your essays stress your potential and abilities.</p>