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<p>Yeah, everyone I know who did UROP last year said it was a terrible experience and a waste of a lot of time. I'm so glad I didn't do it.</p>

<p>Anyways, my schedule:
OMS 301
ACC 271
ECON 102
STATS 401
ASIANLAN 115 </p>

<p>ahhh 18 credits. I hope I don't die.</p>

<p>Redhare, I honestly recommend speaking with a professor on your own and asking for a research position. If you're uncomfortable doing this... well, don't be! Most profs are nice people, and if they don't have anything available for you, they will point you to someone else who might. Just read a little about their research, and then drop by their office. </p>

<p>That said, I'm sure there are some rewarding UROP positions if you look closely. I'd recommend choosing a position where only one or at the most two students are wanted. Unfortunately I was looking for the exact opposite when I picked a position. You will still have to deal with the UROP people, but if you feel that you're actually gaining something from the whole thing it might be a little easier. Also if you're taking it for credit keep in mind that you're paying thousands of dollars to do something which you should be getting paid to do.</p>

<p>if you're just gonna go up to a professor and look for research, will professors take freshman? Also, if you do that, do you get credit or get paid?</p>

<p>Thanks, samwise. But the one reason I did take UROP was to do it for work-study. I don't think I would ever do UROP to replace a class I would normally want to take. So all that stuff the students say in the mail/advertisement: Are all of them just full of crap?</p>

<p>"if you're just gonna go up to a professor and look for research, will professors take freshman?"</p>

<p>Well think of it this way, either you have enough ability or knowledge to do something worthwhile or you don't. Joining the UROP program isn't going to gift you with an amazing skill set and suddenly have you writing articles for Science.</p>

<p>"Also, if you do that, do you get credit or get paid?"</p>

<p>Yes.</p>

<p>"But the one reason I did take UROP was to do it for work-study. I don't think I would ever do UROP to replace a class I would normally want to take."</p>

<p>If you're doing it as a work study then you should compare it to other things you'd be doing for work study. If you're able to find a decent project then putting up with the program may be better for you than sitting in the library or working in the cafeteria. Since UROP pays the work study money though, beware that a lot of labs that participate in the program see it as free labor.</p>

<p>"So all that stuff the students say in the mail/advertisement: Are all of them just full of crap?"</p>

<p>What do the advertisements say?</p>

<p>If you want more details about my experience feel free to send me a PM.</p>

<p>so, how easy is it to drop UROP in like November, when you've already started working on the project?</p>

<p>It would probably depend on who you're working for, but might be difficult without burning some bridges at least. If it's your first semester you don't have to worry about W's on your transcript.</p>

<p>im an incoming freshman and though my orientation is stil pretty far ahead (intl orientation), ive kind of started to think about my schedule and just want some advice... </p>

<p>basically, i THINK im placed out of math 115, 116 and econ 101,102 with my IB credits (unless i misinterpreted the info on the umich site), as well as some other physics one. I'm a prospective business major as well.. (rejected from PA though T.T, but hey.. its so competitive and my app was only completed near the end of feb)</p>

<p>anyways... this is some of the classes i have in mind.</p>

<p>math 215 (since if im placed out of 115 n 116, this seems a reasonably route right?)
english 124/125 (whats the difference and how should i choose??)</p>

<p>then im planning to take an econ class, is it possible and should i take 400 level class? im pretty confident, but im too sure 1) if i can take it? 2) if i should take it. some of the ones im looking at are 401 or 404,405 (wats the diff between 404 and 405)</p>

<p>then im also planning to take a STAT class (but it will depend on what i take for econ) or if not, some other classes that i might find interesting.. </p>

<p>i think this will add up to 14-16 credits?? how does it look?</p>

<p>thx for any advice</p>

<p>I agree with samwise. UROP for the most part is a waste of time. My experience was probably just as bad but not AS bad as samwise's I guess lol. The thing is with my project, it was really significant and huge, but the jobs we UROP students were given was a huge waste of time. </p>

<p>However, what I suggest for anyone who is interested in research and is already registered to be in UROP, is to try it out for the first semester and if it really does come down to being plain stupid/awful, just drop out for the 2nd semester and replace it with something more worthwhile</p>

<p>Nerj, I would not reccommend taking a 400 level econ class. Esp. not 401. Most students in those classes are juniors, and have taken quite a few 300 level classes. It's a really big thing to jump into and i've heard of many freshman having trouble in those classes who've had AP/IB credit for econ 101 and 102. I highly suggest taking a 300level class.</p>