<p>Does anyone know if any schools other than Boston Conservatory offer feedback (via telephone) regarding students' auditions for their programs? I'm interested to hear why I wasn't accepted to several of the schools I applied to.</p>
<p>In particular, University of Michigan, CCM, Carnegie Melon, Pace, and Ithaca.</p>
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<p>lalala :-)</p>
<p>ok I can't stand it any longer and have to break down and ask...what in the world is a "BUMP"??</p>
<p>"Bump"(ing) is what a (CC) poster does to bring back a thread to life.</p>
<p>Why not call and ask--and report back to us? I encouraged my S to inquire in one or two cases (where he got wonderful verbal feedback on the day of his audition and then didn't get in) but he says he won't call. Oh well.</p>
<p>I can't remember which school it was (maybe CMU?) which said at the audition that they wish they could provide feedback on audition performances but just could not. But it is certainly worth a try.</p>
<p>It would be interesting if anyone reports success. My guess would be the response would be akin to the letters sent....we had too many talented applicants this year blah blah. But if someone does report a school favorable to this can't you predict a school switchboard lighted up with 800 CC MTers calling? LOL</p>
<p>I believe UMich will give feedback regarding an audition. My personal view is that this is far more useful when still in the midst of the audition season with auditions still to come, rather than after admissions are all done, UNLESS you have not been accepted anywhere and are considering trying again next year.</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that as interesting as feedback from one particular program might be, what auditors at one school say should not be taken (imo) as the immutable truth as it applies more globally to one performer. As we all have seen, tastes/judgments on what is desirable can vary wildly from school to school, which is why a kid might be accepted to (and I am just pulling these out of the air randomly), Syracuse and not to UArts.</p>
<p>NMR....that is also an excellent point. Feedback is interesting to get but may have no relation to what another school would say.</p>
<p>My D's vocal coach was an auditor at UArts and he told us of situations where they turned away students and then those same students were accepted at places like Julliard, NYU, etc. We were having a conversaton about rollling admissions and how that made it difficult for them since they could only offer so many acceptances for each audition date. This would be another reason why someone was accepted at one program and not another.</p>
<p>It is interesting to think that you might be in competition with only those students who attend on your audition date for a spot in a program. Never gave that a thought until now.</p>
<p>kimoki....you bring up a good point that I hadn't thought of but the effect of rolling admissions may play a part. I have a student who was rejected from UArts early in the season and one of his recommendations was from one of the professors in the program (he had gone to the pre college program there with lots of positive feedback) and he is accepted now to Tisch. There could be any number of reasons but actually I have read of some students who got into top programs and then not Point Park, for example. And the fact that PP and UArts accepts on a rolling basis and may be willing to only take a certain number from each audition date, and they auditioned on an earlier date, may be a factor compared to schools that wait to see each candidate's audition before picking the class.</p>
<p>But guys, even a school with rolling admissions (take UArts, for instance) doesn't have to accept only a certain number from each audition date, if you think about it. For instance, say UArts auditioned 50 MTs on 1/1. The auditors there may well know that they want (again, making this up) two kids for sure from that day and they might know for sure that they do not want 25 of the auditioners. So UArts then (and reminding you all that I am making this up) sends out two acceptances right away and 25 "no thank yous." That still leaves 23 kids whose files they can basically hold onto until later -- when UArts auditors have seen more kids -- to make a decision. That's why some kids hear quickly from rolling admissions schools and others don't hear for months. So it may not be accurate, really, to say that places such as UArts only take a certain number from each audition date. They do seem to defer some until later.</p>
<p>Here's another scenario,
EA (early action), for example at CCM (although they didn't call it "early action") they were only accepting 2-3 from this lst audition, AND the rest would NOT be considered for deferrals/waitlists (although at future auditions they would).<br>
Also at Elon & Emerson's EA they would accept only 2-3 (with deferral/waitlists).</p>
<p>Good point, mainstage. But I think EA and ED are different by nature than rolling admissions.</p>
<p>Mainstage - it is interesting that you bring up CCM. During my D's audition she was asked why she chose to audition on their first audition date. The question caught her somewhat off guard, but she simply answered that it worked well for her schedule, and that she felt she was ready. From her audition day, only one girl and 2 boys were accepted. </p>
<p>And so for future reference, if CCM really is the right fit for you, I'd suggest bypassing the first audition date as the odds are at its slimmest, as you can only get a 'yes' or a 'no', not a 'maybe' (deferral). Other schools, like Elon, Point Park and Marymount Manhattan, who also conduct "early auditions", do defer people, and, then of course there is CMU, who does not make any decisions until they see everybody :).</p>
<p>NMR, you make a good point and I do agree with it. I was basing my comments earlier with what kimoki wrote that she was told at UArts about only taking a certain number from each early audition date and so I was going by that. But otherwise, I agree with you about rolling schools which can hold onto some kids until the end of the process from the earlier audition dates, if interested. Each school handles this differently. We did not go to any early dates except the EA round at Emerson which resulted in a deferral for the BFA but an early acceptance to the college. It was understood that Emerson only takes a few kids in EA, rejects many, and defers some. This is a bit different, as you say, than some rolling schools. And even the rolling schools handle it differently like MTgrlsmom says. CCM didn't defer any but Elon does.</p>
<p>This information is invaluable to next year's crop of MT kids! I hope the parents of the current junior class are taking notes! Not only should you decide WHERE to audition, but WHEN can be equally important. I didn't start reading CC until very late in the game; I thought the earlier one auditions, the better.... not always so! I learned a lot as I went along...but mostly it was after the fact.</p>
<p>I didn't think it was quite that simple. I am sure that there are other considerations... like who they think will eventually come to UARTs. For instance (I am making this up) if they want 25 kids they may decide to try and get 5 from each audition date so they offer 7/8 and hold onto maybe 5 more assuming they all won't come. They probably get a feel who they think will not only be a good fit and is talented but who they think would actually come to UArts. I am going by what I was told but I didn't go into detail but I am sure there are many factors this is just one that comes into play with rolling admissions.</p>