<p>Hi
can anyone tell me whether there are two seperate applicant pools for intl students who ask for financial aid and for those who don't ???</p>
<p>yep, there are different applicant pools.</p>
<p>Unless the college/uni is need-blind for internationals. Then it's fair game. :p</p>
<p>but we don't really know that for sure, do we? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>let me tell ya all one thing:</p>
<p>except for Princeton, all colleges are stingy when it comes to aid for int'ls.
even if a univ professes need-blindedness, trust me...its only for their citizens</p>
<p>Bull. Vassar's REALLY generous, too. (not need blind, too!) As if Williams. (need blind)</p>
<p>cmmn...don't give that bull-***** that the top US univs are handing over funds to us on golden platter...
when it comes to int'l most of the univs are down-right stgingy
Cornell even says 'NO AID FOR INT'L" in its agreement.
Upenn's known to be ant-int'l-aid...its obvious from their propectus
these r just a few univs...but in general thast the case</p>
<p>HYP all have need-blind admissions for intels. So do Williams, and quite a few LACs. Most that aren't SPECIFICALLY say that on their websites- especially Cornell that doesn't let intels apply early with aid. Nobody in life is going to hand you money on a gold platter so why should colleges? For the most part- if you're admitted and they decide that you deserve aid, then you'll get much or less what you need. You hear evil stories of bad aid but thats not the norm and generally confined to several dodgy institution like NYU and WUSTL.</p>
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<p>Thats a severe exaggeration isn't it? I'm curious- do you have anything to back that up?</p>
<p>it was word of mouth in mycase...my senior's at Yale...and well...ive heard some dreadful stories of fin aid at Yale...my class-mate was denied Harvard bec they had doubts over her financial situation
At present...I (u may have a diff opinion) think only Princeton is int'l friendly completely
as for state universities...do i need to speak even?</p>
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my class-mate was denied Harvard bec they had doubts over her financial situation
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<p>I didn't know Harvard ever gives you a reason for rejection</p>
<p>dude...she told me that at her interview they asked her what her parents do... she said that shes single parented and that her mom's a hair-dresser... she believes its that, which played against her...</p>
<p>no...i don't have anythin factual in case of Harvard and Yale...but for many otyhers i do...</p>
<p>i think u r being a little too extreme there. </p>
<p>no doubt financial aid is hard to get, but you don't have to be sound so erm, vituperative, over it. after all, US colleges do not owe us internationals anything. in fact, i think they are kind enough (though they may well have their own agendas - such as diversifying their student body) to offer internationals SOME aid, unlike their stingy UK, Auzzie, or Canadian counterparts. fact remains that there ARE a lot of people out there (friends, as well as success stories on CC) who do get fabulous aid packages from need-blind as well as need-aware colleges - even if some of us might not be good enough or lucky enough to get it. </p>
<p>As for Yale, apparently their financial packages are getting stronger every year - pledging to waive family contribution for families below USD$40000 income if I'm not wrong. I have two friends who got great financial aid packages from Yale - though both didn't end up there. One chose MIT which actually offered her less aid, while the other went Harvard. Cornell, if I understand correctly, offers very limited aid, which makes it really hard to get. Unlike most of its counterparts, Cornell can choose to admit an applicant but deny him financial aid, though.</p>
<p>granted...US is more generous than UK...i know bec Cornell let me in despite me havin to rely HEAVILY on loans, but Cambridge sent me an acceptance statin NO AID whatsoever...and preferably no loans too (that blasphemy i, say...they r closin doors on most guys if they say no aid)</p>
<p>I never heard of Cornells 'No Aid for Int'l' policy honestly. They are stingy i know that much and even they state it on the website but I presume if the Intel is really awesome and if they really want him/her to study at Cornell then obviously they will offer some aid.</p>
<p>Same goes with the rest.</p>
<p>In UK the colleges dont really have enough funds for giving Finaid. Its not their fault . . if they dont have the money they cant splurge it on anyone ! </p>
<p>In the US, colleges do have a lotta funds grants etc. So its easier to get aid in the US. I didnt even apply yto any place in the UK because I know that they won't be able to give any aid.</p>
<p>cornell policy for ED: "No aid offered"</p>
<p>i signed the contratc buddy...i kinow</p>
<p>ED . . that maybe true. Im RD , never saw one like that in RD !</p>
<p>for ED perhaps. and so be it, UofC doesn't allow finaid applicants to apply EA either. but aid - albeilt very limited - is definitely available for RD applicants.</p>
<p>thats the whole point- it amounts to 'LIMITED'/ 'very little' ultimately</p>
<p>Cornell has no international aid from what I know.. most US colleges are going to require you to have sufficient funds.. If you can't show the funds.. you are unlikely to get a US visa..</p>
<p>Some universities are going to require the financial assets statement prior during the admission process, some will require it after you are admitted..</p>
<p>if they require it during the admission process, and if they do not have a stated need-blind policy for international students.. you can be certain you'd be rejected if you cannot show the necessary funds...</p>
<p>As someone said, US colleges are under no obligation to give aid to international students.. Some may offer it only to get that brilliant student who otherwise couldn't pay..</p>