<p>on one website, it says this about U of michigan:
"Rigorous curriculum and teamwork emphasis win praise, but students are no fans of strict grading."</p>
<p>do you agree with it? like, does this school have strict grading system?
also, is this school generous about gving out financial aids to int'l students?
thanks</p>
<p>international student= ZERO financial aid</p>
<p>Michigan cannot give financial aid to non-US citizens and does not have a scholarship fund for international students either.</p>
<p>If you are not loaded, you need not apply to the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (where 'Diversity' is the most cherished aspect of the student body).</p>
<p>As far as grading is concerned:
A+ = 4.0
A= 4.0
A- = 3.7
B+ = 3.3
B = 3.0
B - = 2.7
C+ = 2.3
C = 2.0
C - = 1.7
D + = 1.3
D = 1.0
D - = 0.7
E = 0.0</p>
<p>You have to put in work to get an A and A+ is reserved for a select few students. Most profs cap A + at 1 or 2 or 3 students. There is no difference in GPA but it looks nice on your transcript.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention that when you apply to U of M as an international student you need to prove to the adcom that you have money coming out of your nose. They need to see evidence that you can fork over 50 grand a year. I think this makes things easier for international students to gain admission. If you are rich, apply early and you have reasonable stats (1900 + on SAT) you are pretty much a shoo in.</p>
<p>^^ lol hahahaha</p>
<p>ndesai, most of the international students who applied to Michigan from the UAE this year are loaded. None of them with sub-2000 SAT scores were admitted. Not one. Your comment is actually quite inaccurate. International students are subject to similar admissions standards as OOS applicants. I would say if you have a sub 3.7 GPA (unweighed) and sub 2000 SAT, your chances of getting into Michigan for OOS and International students aren't good.</p>
<p>that statement (original post) is about the business school</p>
<p>Alexandre,
I am speaking from my own experience. I am a Canadian, intl. I got 1960 on my SATs and I was admitted. My ability to pay is the only reason I can go. Many of my better qualified peers with higher averages (out of 100, UM calculated my GPA as 4.0) are going to third tier US universities like Wayne State U.</p>
<p>The main point I was trying to make was, if you are an intl, regardless of your stats, you need to be able to pay. And even when you are admitted, they really don't treat you as well as the other American incoming freshman. A good example of this is orientation. I had to call the Office of New Student Programs and demand to be put in a domestic orientation. Finally, they relented. It was in late July, and most of the classes I wanted to register were full. When the intl students arrive for their orientation right about now they are going to be screwed when registering for classes. Most of the students from Michigan get orientation dates in June.</p>
<p>ndesai, on average, in-staters apply much earlier than out-of-staters and international students. That's because the entire High School system in the state of Michigan understands our the University of Michigan admissions operates. Out of state schools and international schools aren't as familiar with Michigan's admissions process. Furthermore in-state students know they will be applying to Michigan since their first or second year of high school. Out of state students and international students figure out that they are going to apply to Michigan in their third or fourth year of high school. </p>
<p>As such, in-state students are, on average, admitted several months before out of state and international students. Orientation at Michigan has nothing to do with residency, but rather, is handed out on a first come first served basis. International students are generally given orientation in August because most would not accept coming earlier. I know, I was an international student too. There was no way I was going to fly 7,000 miles for a one-day orientation just so that I could avoid being locked out of a class or two that I could just as easily take my second or third trimester at the University. However, most international students I know who wanted to schedule their orientation earlier did so at the earliest date availlable. </p>
<p>As for students getting locked out of classes, that is unfortunate and not very common, but it obviously happens everywhere. I wouldn't worry too muc about it. Classes at Michigan are offered every trimester or at the worst, every other trimester. Very few classes are offered once every three or four trimesters. Either way, once can take as many pre-requisites and graduation requirements as they need their first trimester. By the time the second trimester comes along, most students can register in pretty much any class they wish. This sort of thing happens just as frequently at almost any and all universities. But it should be made clear that Michigan does not "screw" international students.</p>
<p>You know best Alexandre. You are the super moderator and i'm the incoming freshman.</p>
<p>My experience does not make your concerns any less valid or real. It is important for incoming students and prospective students to know that orientation and class registration are tricky and can sometimes (if not often)be frustrating. </p>
<p>First year students (particularly those that are admitted later in the process) will be locked out of certain classes. Disapointment is inevitable in large schools. Any school with more than 3,000 undergrads is going to have to deal with logistical challenges. My point was not that such issues do not occur but rather, that the University does not purposely harm students based on citizenship or residancy. </p>
<p>This said, I encourage students not to worry. Most classes are open to all students and if a student cannot register for a particular class, do not panic. There are other required classes that must be taken that will be open and the classes that are closed will most likely be taught within one or two trimesters, so you will have plenty of chances to take them at one time during your stay at Michigan.</p>
<p>Remember, most of you will spend 7-10 trimesters at Michigan, so you will have plenty of opportunities to enroll into as many classes you wish.</p>
<p>no financial aid for int'l students at all?
then..can we apply in second or third yr?</p>
<p>I would not count on it. I am sure there are isolated cases, but for the most part, international students have to be wealthy to attend Michigan.</p>
<p>Or willing to take out a hugondous loan, like I did.</p>
<p>What degree are you studying for presleyg? I doubt an LSA education, on it's own, will ever open up any job opportunities to pay back a 200K loan.</p>
<p>Computer Science. After grad school, I'll probably be able to pay it off.</p>
<p>Yeah I'd be screwed if it was art history or something. Not that there's anything wrong with being an art historian. :|</p>