<p>This is not a sports forum.</p>
<p>SEC Sports is one aspect of UAlabama, so the conversation is appropriate. There are other aspects of Alabama that aren’t directly associated with academics - like the surrounding town of Tuscaloosa or nightlife or the Greek system or good hotels or whatever, and those also get discussed on the forum, too (and nobody objects).</p>
<p>When people discuss what hotels are the best to use, no one says, “this isn’t a travel forum.”</p>
<p>jrt336</p>
<p>No way Florida is a step down…Florida would be a step up for Saban.
Let’s only deal with the facts
Florida is the most successful SEC team over the last 20 years.
Florida has a lot more money
The state of Florida has more talent then any other SEC state</p>
<p>Nick Saban has just done a better job than Meyer.</p>
<p>The great Bear Bryant once said</p>
<p>The Bear himself once called Florida the SEC’s “sleeping giant” because it is the biggest, richest university in the middle of one of the most talent-rich states in the nation.</p>
<p>I don’t know if it would be a step up or a step down. I think any of the top coaching jobs - UF, Alabama, UT, USC, Notre Dame, Penn St, UMich are pretty great jobs to have…</p>
<p>navarre1, I’m not a UA fan, I’m a Michigan fan. UF would be a step down. If you honestly think UF would be a step up, you know nothing about college football. Tradition does matter. Right now some top schools are down, like ND and Michigan, but they’ll be back. They still pull in top 10-15 recruiting classes, even though they aren’t even in the top 40-50 teams. If Florida was bad for ten years, they would not get the top recruits, even though ND and Michigan still do get some pretty good talent, and they haven’t been good in a while. Why would Saban leave Bama when he will win a National Championship and could easily do it again within the next few years. It’d take more time than that to do it at Florida.</p>
<p>Why do you think Urban Meyer had a clause in his contract that said he could leave for Ohio St, Michigan, or Notre Dame at any time without penalty? Because they are more prestigious places to coach. They have more tradition. They have more devoted fans and alumni. Don’t speak like you know everything when you don’t know anything.</p>
<p>^^^^I know that you can concern yourself with tradition and be wrong…
Florida is a better coaching job because the state of Florida has the better football players.
The state of Florida has more national championship teams over the last 40 years than Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, and Ohio State combined. Why is that? I’ll tell you why. The Universities have done a much better job at keeping it’s talented football players in state. Now you have learned a lesson.</p>
<p>Florida (like California) is blessed with a huge population, which surely provides more chances for better players. 
I think I heard that USC gets most of its players within 100 miles of campus (or something like that.)</p>
<p>UMiami has been amazing with its national championships (I think they have the most, right? I could be wrong). </p>
<p>The state of Alabama population is less than 5 million people. It’s amazing that schools like Alabama and Auburn can even put together good teams when you consider its draw.</p>
<p>^^^It is amazing what Alabama and Auburn have accomplished. Nick Saban is a recruiting machine and possibly the best college coach out there. Don’t tell jrt this, but I’m not even a Florida fan. My point is that it is easier to win at Florida, but if tradition is what one is looking for than Alabama is the better job.</p>
<p>Just because it’s easier to win somewhere doesn’t mean that people want to coach there. Florida is one of the top states for recruiting-maybe even the best state. That doesn’t mean that coaches want to coach there more. Would Florida State be a step up for Saban just because it’s in Florida? What about Texas A&M or Cal? Didn’t think so.</p>
<p>You think Indiana, Michigan, and Alabama have great recruits? They don’t. Nevertheless, ND, UM, and UA are some of the most desired coaching jobs in the country. Your logic is flawed. Meyer’s clause in his contract shows that UF is not, at the very least, one of the 3 best places to coach. It’s probably top ten because of what he’s done there lately, but not top 5. When’s the last time Alabama won the National Championship? I don’t know, but it’s been awhile. But it’s still one of the top 5 places to coach and higher than Florida.</p>
<p>Most coaches would agree that Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, Ohio State, and maybe Texas are more “prestigious” places to coach.</p>
<p>I think the basketball coach Anthony Grant gets a $250,000 bonus for winning the SEC tournament and even more if he wins the NCAA championship (or something like that it was in the CW), so I’m sure Saban will get an even bigger bonus.</p>
<p>Most coaches would agree that Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, Ohio State, and maybe Texas are more “prestigious” places to coach.</p>
<p>I think I’ll bow out now. It appears that JRT336 has taken a poll of all coaches.</p>
<p>BTW The Notre Dame job was just open and Urban Meyer showed no interest.</p>
<p>I think that there are several/many very desirable coaching jobs…certainly the ones mentioned above are very desirable.</p>
<p>It might be safe to say that coaching the top ranked football teams in the 6 BCS conferences plus ND are desirable. </p>
<p>To try to rank the coaching jobs brings in personal opinion - which will be plentiful. (almost like discussing politics and religion! ) lol</p>
<p>Forgot to mention Penn St, too. But, that has been Joe Pa’s job for so long, it’s hard to think of it as desired by others because he’s showing no signs of leaving (the man is amazing…only took a few weeks off after hip replacement last year!)</p>
<p>Meyer already is building up Florida. Why would he want to go to ND and have to rebuild there when he can just reload in Florida? It’d be much easier to win a National Championship in Florida. </p>
<p>I think there is something else to this Meyer story. I don’t see him coaching for a long time, even if he comes back by next year. I think he has some serious health issues. He works himself to death. He isn’t going to come back and coach differently. His health issues probably won’t just disappear in a few months. ND wouldn’t hire him if that’s the case.</p>
<p>Florida is a desirible place to coach. Probably not as desirible as ND or Alabama or a few other places though.</p>
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<p>That’s because those topics are relevant to attendance to the University of Alabama. If this thread was about UA football or Nick Saban, I wouldn’t say anything. </p>
<p>The comings and goings of a coach at another school is not relevant to this forum.</p>
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<p>And you’re not a College Confidential moderator.</p>
<p>The topic is obviously relevant enough to UA-inclined CC members to warrant a three page discussion (although, granted, it probably would only have been two if you hadn’t entered the thread and made several posts complaining about its existence in the first place.)</p>
<p>Tuscaloosa is described as “a drinking town with a football problem.” I was contacted by three different students within ten minutes of Meyer’s resignation. Obviously, a part of the student body cares about this story because it affects the future of the SEC and the University of Alabama football team. Because this will hurt Florida, it will benefit us. All aspects Alabama football rules in Tuscaloosa and that includes its competition.</p>
<p>I wonder how much Meyer’s uncertain future will affect recruiting. A lot of recruits come to a school because of the coach, and I feel many recruits may shy away from Florida because they do not know who will be coaching them. This could definitely help Alabama’s recruiting by allowing us to grab those recruits that were choosing between the two schools.</p>
<p>I stand by what I say - leave the sports stuff to sports forums. There are several goods one out there devoted to the SEC and Alabama.</p>
<p>Looks like Meyer is stepping down only for the offseason now, so I don’t think it will hurt recruiting that much. I still think Florida’s domination over the SEC is still over, though.</p>
<p>Obviously, a part of the student body cares about this story because it affects the future of the SEC and the University of Alabama football team.</p>
<p>For those of us who are looking at the bigger picture, we know that the hiring of Nick Saban was part of Alabama’s master plan of becoming a top pick school for students.</p>
<p>Some may think having that facet is odd. It’s not. Having to top ranked football team for decades brought in so much money for USC (calif) that it helped fund what was necessary to raise it’s rankings. And, no one can ignore the benefits of having one’s school in the news (as long as the news is positive).</p>
<p>Clemson has a similar plan (I forget exactly what their plan is, but it also involves sports championships - maybe for basketball?? don’t remember.)</p>
<p>So, naturally, when we heard the news about Urban, we immediately realized how this might positively affect Alabama’s chances for another SEC Championship and another attempt at a national championship - and what that will mean for the university in dollars and in popularity. Believe me, there are kids all over this country that are now thinking…hmmm…maybe Alabama. </p>
<p>That’s why the topic of this thread was appropriate.</p>