Florida ban on classroom instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity has been expanded to all grades

I disagree. “Traditional” families have been out in the open in classrooms since forever. This movement is to try to keep non-“traditional” families and lifestyles in the shadows. That’s marginalization. Look at how DeSantis and conservatives are selling this nonsense. It is all about keeping kids from having any exposure to anything but “traditional” values.

Books with “traditional” families aren’t being banned.

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The easy tagline is that teachers are indoctrinating students with woke ideology.

People want to believe that young people are more progressive in their beliefs on these issues because they are being taught to be at school. That simply isn’t the case.

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Sigh. It’s no wonder Florida has, by far, the worst teacher shortages in the country.

I wonder how much time DeSantis is spending talking to his constituents about how he plans to address that crisis?

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Yes, I was curious because you said “as a parent I do not want any person talking to my minor child about sexuality” and I was not sure how sex ed could be covered without discussing that topic. Thanks for your explanation, it’s helpful. We do not always know how things are done in other states. I live in CA, and sex ed in my kids’ schools included discussion of sexuality and gender, as required by law.

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Funny how when it is “traditional” it is family, but when non-“traditional” it is somehow about sexuality.

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Those ideas are the way I experienced public school, especially MS and HS. I knew my female teacher was married because she used Mrs. and if not Miss. No one used Ms. No idea if my male teachers were married, divorced, widowed etc…. I didn’t know about my teachers’ personal lives. I didn’t ask them for advice or college recommendations. That was my parents’ role. We went to class and they taught us their subject. Not much time for chit chat. We had 5 minutes to get to our lockers and get to our next class.

Don’t remember much about elementary school…I went to 4 different schools in 6 years. The teachers were nice but I couldn’t tell you if they were married, had kids etc…. Their job was to teach academics.

There seems to be a lot of extracurricular discussions happening in schools these days. People complain about public schools and the prevalence of low test scores and declining academic proficiency. Maybe more emphasis on teaching subjects and less chatting might help remedy that :woman_shrugging:t3:.

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He doesn’t. It’s part of a longer game to undermine support for public schools.

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The remote learning due to Covid is what started much of the parental concern about what and how school are teaching. Of course kids are more progressive because of what’s being taught. That’s the entire CRT issue. We never had walkouts or protests when I was in school for example (1980s). Not even during college. Now protestors and activists are celebrities and glorified. Everything is an issue/micro aggression/offense. No wonder we have rampant mental illness among our young people.

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I don’t know when you went to college, but walkouts and protests on college campuses in the US have been common since the 1950s and 60s.

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All states are struggling. Florida is far from the worst.

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On certain campuses but not all. Not much to protest during the 1980s.

Are you kidding me? The war on drugs, mass incarceration and the AIDs epidemic were all the subject of protests and walkouts.

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Not at my HS or college.

Okay, but your statement was that protest and walkouts are due to CRT and there weren’t protests back in the day.

Not happening at your college doesn’t equal was not happening. Nor is there any correlation to be drawn to CRT. Protests and walkouts have been happening fairly consistently since the 50s/60s and they are greeted the exact same way every time - with lots of scorn and derision by those who ‘don’t remember it being like this back in the good ol days’.

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I am speaking from my own experience.

Which clearly doesn’t include anything regarding CRT.

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The recent protests I see in the news primary stem from CRT related issues and gun control.

The ridiculous reaction to “CRT” is the same as what is driving this Florida law. It is about repressing/denying reality, past and present.

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In your opinion. You may believe in the tenets of CRT. I don’t. And I don’t want it incorporated into the curriculum at my kids schools. But this is off topic from the Florida law so this is my last post regarding CRT.

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There were huge protests about Apartheid too and divesting from South Africa. At my public university and my husband’s private college, both, students erected shanties on campus and camped out in them representing the living conditions of segregated black South Africans. It was a very effective campaign and did a lot of good.

https://www.blackhistory.mit.edu/archive/shantytown-built-protest-coalition-against-apartheid-1987

https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/yale-students-campaign-divestment-apartheid-south-africa-1985-1987

https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/university-north-carolina-students-win-divestment-apartheid-south-africa-1986-1987

There were shanty towns built and protests on US college campuses across the country.

They were even protesting in Florida: https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/113853

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