Flunked Class + UW + 11.6 MCAT. Am I screwed?

<p>So I have a 11.6 MCAT, an F in a class and another "Unofficial Withdrawal" in a different class (both are not premed classes though). I was stupid and partied a lot but now I've managed to raise my cumulative GPA from a 1.7 to a 3.34. I also go to an Ivy.</p>

<p>In the trend, I've gotten 3.7-4.0 every semester to have raised it from 1.7 --> 3.34</p>

<p>Am I screwed? What are my chances at Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, and the rest of the top 20 medical schools?</p>

<p>Your chances for top 20 medical schools are pretty much nil by this point. I think your best bet right now is to retake the MCAT, because there is a zero chance of getting into ANY med school with the score you have now. Is this F in one of the requirements? If so, you have to repeat the class and hopefully get an A.</p>

<p>What does 11.6 mean?</p>

<p>(I have a short list of things I expect, but I don’t want to suggest anything to the OP just yet.)</p>

<p>11.6 times three. This is clearly a person who is lying, saw how MCAT scores were listed on US News and other websites, and then wanted to see what their chances with a MCAT score at that level would be with their “current” GPA. They obviously don’t know much about the MCAT, so I suspect that this is a student who currently has a bad GPA and wants to know what his/her chances are if they turn their GPA around, but doesn’t want to admit that they haven’t done it yet.</p>

<p>The answer is with some time off and perhaps some additional classes you could pull it off, but chances don’t look all that great. In general, though, you definitely would have a shot at A medical school, if not top 20.</p>

<p>I agree, MCD. That’s the explanation that immediately sprung to mind, but I wanted to wait and let the OP explain himself first.</p>

<p>No mercy from medical students with 4 exams and a play to do before thanksgiving.</p>

<p>yup. I based it on my SAT and LSAT scores. In terms of job prospects, I am switching over to med. Now whether I actually get into a good med school or not, it’s not as important if I just want to be a physician, but I still wanted to know my chances.</p>

<p>Out of curiosity, what did you do to predict your MCAT?</p>

<p>You’re spot on haha. Yeah I looked at the top 10 medical schools and their average MCATs/percentiles, pairing it with my LSAT and SAT percentiles. I’m pretty good at writing and verbal comprehension so I figured I wouldn’t have problems there. As for chem/bio, I’d have to study for it. I should be set for the physics portion - I’ve gotten As in all my physics classes already.</p>

<p>Med students are smart.</p>

<p>Be sure to also consider the DO route.</p>

<p>mmmcdowe and BDM consider becoming Sherlock Holmes.</p>

<p>Assuming you somehow managed this 34, which isn’t really that likely to begin with, your F and W are going to cause questions. Likely, you won’t be eligible for any “top schools” and your chances elsewhere will depend upon your actual performance. For a rough guesstimate, try the med school selection spreadsheet hosted on SDN’s Pre-Allo What Are My Chances forum. The spreadsheet gives you an estimate as to your chances with a given set of stats at each school.</p>

<p>I smell a ■■■■■ .</p>

<p>Just go to any Med. School if there is a hope for you to get into any. In a long run, in terms of income, it does not matter. I personally know renown (internationally) cardiologist who goes to some Europian simposiums on a regular basis and making whole load of $$. He graduated from some Caribean Med. School, because in the year that he applied it was very hard to get into any Med. School in the US. 80% of our local MD’s graduated from our unranked local Medical school and doing just fine, including MD, dentists, oral surgeons,…etc. No reason to feel desparate in front of closed door, find the one that is wide open for you.</p>

<p>Improve your GPA and actually take the MCAT
Then apply early and broadly, your SAT may or may not correlate to your MCAT, MCAT is more knowledge based than SAT.
And be sure you have the right ECs- shadowing, research, volunteer work, etc</p>

<p>I would argue that, while the MCAT does require a significant amount of knowledge, it is much more of an analytical exam that requires you to incorporate your knowledge rather than regurgitate. </p>

<p>I also agree that one can not expect to get in the same percentile as LSAT and SAT scores. There’s a lot of factors to consider, especially for the SAT. For one, you are taking the SAT compared to a very wide range of students, many of which will not finish college or last long enough to take the MCAT. Thus, you are going to be up against a lot more competitive group of test takers (in general). You also have to factor in things like maturity level and how much people study for the SAT versus the MCAT. I’m sure that there are some correlations, but a bird in hand…</p>

<p>The MCAT is a much more self-selective test than the SAT is: while almost everyone at most high schools take the SAT, only a small percentage of pre-meds take the MCAT. I would also argue that it is much more analytical than the SAT is, but in a way that requires a broad range of scientific knowledge. If the OP can bring the GPA to a 3.4 and rock the MCAT, he can probably get into some lower-tier med schools, I’d think.</p>