<p>Hello, </p>
<p>Which school has a stronger program
that will prepare me for the law school?</p>
<p>(i.e., econ., political sciences)</p>
<p>Personally, I'd choose Cornell.</p>
<p>Penn is known for being a pre-professional haven for business majors and science buffs. Cornell seems more academic and liberal arts esque, which is definitely a good thing if you're considering law. The atmosphere at Cornell is just plain fun - very laidback too. Plus, Ithaca's gorgeous.</p>
<p>Actually, Penn's liberal arts college is larger than Cornell's, and it dominates Penn's undergraduate experience with 2/3 of all undergraduates enrolled in it and ALL undergraduates taking courses in it. Also, many of Penn's liberal arts departments are very highly ranked (top 10 or top 5).</p>
<p>Both Penn and Cornell offer excellent preparation for law school (including Penn's College of Arts and Sciences AND Wharton School and even the engineering and nursing schools). I say this as an attorney who went to Wharton Undergrad. You should be aware, however, that there is no particular program, major, or rigid course distribution (unlike med school) required for law school, and most law schools want students with diverse undergraduate backgrounds.</p>
<p>You should learn as much as you can about both schools and, if possible, VISIT them, and see which is a better fit for you.</p>
<p>Go to your cheapest state school to prepare for law.</p>
<p>I agree with 45%er. As with premed, there's really no such thing as a prelaw program. Any differences b/w Cornell and Penn's acceptance rates to law school can probably be explained by the differences in the entering student body. Go to the school that is the best fit for YOU.</p>
<p>I'm not making a suggestion, but I suggest you take a look at the Cornell Industrial Labor Relations school. It's known to be a pre-law haven, something like 40% of the graduates go on to law school. The courses are a combination of law history, statistics, economics, etc. </p>
<p>It really does prepare you well for law school, my friend's dad graduated from there and is a big union buster or something like that. It's all kind of over my head, but I made it a point to research Cornell ILR a bit.</p>
<p>Dated news, but my Harvard Law class had 36 Cornellians (almost all from Arts), behind only H and Princeton, edging Yale. Penn had fewest of any Ivy. Penn, tho, in last quarter century has risen rapidly and I'd expect is about on par with Cornell at top schools. Cornell, out of its ILR school, generally sends to more mid-tier schools, but therefore prepares many lawyers and some go to top schools. I knew of no one at Cornell who wanted to go to law school who did not.</p>
<p>I'm not sure exactly how "dated" your comment is, at Harvard Law's entering class for 2006 there were 57 students from Penn. Penn was the fourth most represented institution after Harvard, Yale and Stanford.</p>
<p>Mine is 25 years old. I am not surprised things have changed. Still, I expect half of the class is from the Ivies itself, and another quarter from the other top 15 universities and top 10 lacs. Not that HLS is be all and end all, but interesting. Rare that any non-top 4 public (Berkeley, Michigan, Virginia, UCLA) had more than one or two back then. I don't know how it is now, but expect that otherwise few schools have more than a lone representative.</p>
<p>45 Percenter - sorry for the slip, I should have specified: I meant that UPenn is known for having a more pre-professional feel. When I've visited, that's just the impression it made.</p>
<p>world changer, that's a common--and long-standing--perception of Penn that probably arises in large part because of the presence of Wharton and the Nursing school (the only undergraduate schools of their kind in the Ivy League). However, many who haven't spent much time at Penn tend to forget that its liberal arts component is much larger than any of its more professionally-oriented components and, as I previously indicated, many of its liberal arts departments are among the best in the nation. Additionally, "pre-professionalism" in the case of schools like Penn includes many students headed for professions like medicine and law. In that context, pre-professionalism is actually something the OP appears to be looking for.</p>
<p>are you saying redcrimblue that cornell's other schools can't get you into top tier law schools</p>
<p>it doesn't matter one bit which one you go to. you can get into any law school from any ugrad--and penn and cornell are looked at as equals anyway.</p>
<p>go to whichever one you like more.</p>
<p>Not saying that, and not sure how you divined that from what I wrote, but since you asked ILR grads not as successful at top 10 law schools as Arts, and others trail as well. Obviously, and not to step on anyone's toes, that makes sense given the different and higher credentials in Arts compared to others for admissions (and general desirability of those with a more well-rounded undergraduate education in Arts than ILR), but there are many successful law school applicants from all other Cornell schools. Personally know current ILR students at Harvard, etc. and not meant to say with respect to any one individual that he or she is not as well qualified in other schools.</p>
<p>i ask cause i am applying to human ecology at cornell and i want to go to a top law school like harvard in the future..are my chances just as low as anybody else's or are they lower cause of the school</p>
<p>Penn is a better school. It also has the PPE (politics, philosophy, & Economics) program, a great major for those heading to law school. Philadelphia definitely has more lawyers and law practices than Ithaca.</p>
<p>johnnyk,</p>
<p>"Penn is a better school"</p>
<p>most ridiculous statement i've ever heard.</p>
<p>OP,</p>
<p>if you think going to cornell is going to ruin your chances, then i think you're a little out of touch. theres no difference between penn and cornell when time comes to apply to law school.</p>
<p>and i don't think location of undergraduate plays a factor at all</p>
<p>Funny, I always thought things like "there was no Holocaust" and "9/11 was an inside job" were the most ridiculous statements one could hear.</p>
<p>I don't know where I ever said "Cornell will ruin your chances at a good law school" (like Penn Law, #6) but I congratulate you on so heroically beating up this straw man.</p>
<p>Doesn't make a difference. Both are fantastic schools; you can't go wrong with either. Both will help prepare you for law school. Go with your gut and apply ED to your favourite.</p>