For everyone who graduated with a ~2.3 academic highschool GPA

<p>i am a high school dropout. i got into CAL and UCLA after 2 years and CCC...</p>

<p>Of Course. Go Yao...and T-Mac!</p>

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<p>Ugh...</p>

<p>I've been a big Knicks fan since 92'...I got the entire 1994 NBA Finals on tape; was just watching the OJ Game yesterday.</p>

<p>You know we would have won that series had Starks not performed the biggest choke act in the history of sports. Probally the worst gag in the history of civilization.</p>

<p>Heh heh...it's all love though</p>

<p>maize, I dont understand, how did you do it? You guys are saying that you graduated from HS with a low GPA like 2.3... then went to a community college, did well and then you got accepted into Brown as a transfer student?</p>

<p>How was your essay? Your EC's? What about your SAT's? :D </p>

<p>And congrats!</p>

<p>A-san, check your email</p>

<p>That kind of ****es me off. How can you get into Yale or Brown with a 2.3 GPA in high school? Why do they give you more credit if you did worse and then better in college. I've remained pretty consistent and I feel I would have no chance at Yale and I was rejected from Columbia already. It's not fair. I would have done badly and then made a sudden turnaround myself if I knew that would get me into one of HYPSM. That's ridiculous.</p>

<p>Copper, you have to note that Maize didn't ask for financial aid and Brown's transfer admission this year was INCREDIBLY need-aware. </p>

<p>not to downsize your accomplishments Maize, but it's also considered a hook. </p>

<p>back to copper, it does upset me too. I didn't do badly in high school at all but I definitely wasn't top ten so I just look mediocre my whole life. I finally pull a 3.9 at NYU but I get into Brown only for the spring semester. life's hard.</p>

<p>This is a great post! And should be a good lesson to the high school kids with 4.0s freaking out about schools. If you have the motivation and you just wait it out a little, you can really go anywhere.</p>

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<p>Fairness is not an absolute term, it does not exist in some noumenal realm that only the dialectical use of reason can access, nor is it in some Platonic conceptual realm that only rationality can determine. Often, what is "fair" can be determined by the whims and misfortunes of the person who experiences unfairness. What you view as fair may not equate to the same level of fairness of other individuals, and though you may think they lack perspective, they may think you lack perspective as well.</p>

<p>I was rejected at both Yale and Rice; though, after my decision at Rice, I was somewhat disgruntled - spouting the virtues of fairness - I also took a moment to think through my circumstances in a rational manner. From a more reasoned perspective, I know why Rice rejected me - and the reason was confirmed by two Rice adcoms - and I concur with their reasoning. </p>

<p>Nevertheless, keep trying hard; some may reap rewards early, others may do so later. Have patience, be modest, work hard, and your time will come, I assure you:)</p>

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Copper, you have to note that Maize didn't ask for financial aid and Brown's transfer admission this year was INCREDIBLY need-aware.

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<p>Maize is currently a student at Michigan Ann Arbor, and he worked through a sattelite school before that. He enrolled in graduate level philosophy courses and excelled at them. He will likely be working under one of the greatest scholars of philosophy next year, so his acceptance into Brown was not a matter of "if".</p>

<p>maize definitely has some great accomplishments in college...but we can never be sure of exactly how admissions work. let's just leave it at that.</p>

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<p>I'm assuming from my experiences that the essay is often the deciding factor. My HS record was average (3.1), terrible SAT, and my college GPA was good (3.76) but nothing that would blow an adcom away...I've got some very unique EC's but I think my essay was what helped me get into schools last fall.</p>

<p>Yale is the hardest Ivy to transfer into, Brown is one of the easier ones (Cornell is the easiest).</p>

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That kind of ****es me off. How can you get into Yale or Brown with a 2.3 GPA in high school? Why do they give you more credit if you did worse and then better in college. I've remained pretty consistent and I feel I would have no chance at Yale and I was rejected from Columbia already. It's not fair. I would have done badly and then made a sudden turnaround myself if I knew that would get me into one of HYPSM. That's ridiculous.

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<p>Not to blow my own horn, but I had a 35 ACT, 3x800 SAT subjects, and a 3.92 at a school known for grade deflation (top 3% here is ~3.82). I wrote what I felt were great essays, and had a good and well-stated reason for wanting to transfer. Don't my college A's and A+'s in high level (post calc II) math and logic courses make up for failing Algebra II? Don't my A's in 400-500 level classes in history and philosophy (as a freshman/sophomore) make up for a lackluster HS performance (which I also explained in my application essays). Do my pubs in scholarly journals count for anything?</p>

<p>In short, I think I would have gotten in even if I had a more mediocre HS gpa or needed finaid, but I suppose that's just my best guess. I think I may have been competative at Harvard or Yale, but once again that's just my best guess - and I didn't want to go to Harvard or Yale so I suppose we'll never know (until law school that is - where I desperately want to go to Harvard ;)).</p>

<p>That said - I decided to stick it out at Michigan to write my honors thesis with a brilliant professor that I have a great deal of respect for - - so someone on the waitlist got my acceptance anyway.</p>

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ohh, and whoever asked what I wrote my essays on - PM me and I'll send you a copy of them</p>

<p>haha, reading all these posts make high school seem like a waste.</p>

<p>4 years of hard work and stress? vs. 4 wasted years and 2 years of hard work, stress, and lamentation?</p>

<p>Maize&Blue22, I sent you a PM</p>

<p>yeah, I got a ton more than I thought I would :) give me until tomorrow - I'm not on my computer and it's too much of a pain to download secure shell stuff to get it.</p>

<p>I had a 3.3 unweighted (about 3.5 weighted) coming out of High School. However I had a terribly low SAT score, and decided to go the CC route. Never thought I'd end up getting into UCLA though!</p>

<p>So do colleges PREFER community college students over other four-year institutions in transfer admissions?</p>

<p>I was a skateboarding drop out. i finished high school through night school a semester after i was supposed to graduate. Went to a california community college...and now UCSC here i come. A little effort and doing what your told can take you some ways.</p>

<p>It depends on the school. For example the UC's generally prefer somebody coming from a CC then coming from a CSU. However Ivy schools generally perfer students going to other 4 year institutions.</p>