For those who have been deferred...

Colleges and Universities A-Z Villanova University
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<p>For all of those who were differed,</p>

<p>Did everyone get the same letter?</p>

<p>My letter:

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The Committee on Admission has completed a careful and holistic review of your application for Villanova University's Early Action program.</p>

<p>This year, the Office of University Admission experienced the largest pool of Early Action applicants in the University’s history. While there were several aspects of your credentials that impressed our Committee, we have decided to reserve judgment on your application under our traditional Regular Decision program. I would like to make you aware that the majority of our incoming freshman class will be drawn from the Regular Decision group. </p>

<p>Our decision in no way reflects upon your achievements to this point, but rather is related to an extremely competitive pool of Early Action candidates. Let me personally assure you that you will be given every consideration for Regular Decision admission for Villanova and that our decision will be forthcoming in late March.</p>

<p>This brings best wishes for a successful remainder of your senior year, and I thank you for your continued interest in Villanova University.</p>

<p>Sincerely,
Michael M. Gaynor
Director of University Admission

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<p>yepppp. and they sent me a letter today too</p>

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<p>Yes, my son received the same letter. Does anyone know the percentage of students they accepted from the deferred candidates of the Class of 2014 last year?</p>

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<p>Our D was deferred and was accepted via RD…Best of luck…If you are accepted, pay your deposit asap…We did such within minutes of acceptance and were fortunate to get a “double” for housing…Friends that waited are “tripled” up, and to say its crowed and tight is an understatement…(though they are girls,so maybe with males it wouldn’t be so bad?)…This current freshmen class was “oversubscibed”, more students accepted entrance then the normal anticipated yield,creating the housing issues…Seems like the same scenario this year…</p>

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<p>Qdogpa: you are usually spot on in, but I dont think Villanova class of 2014, while slightly largely that class of 2013, was “oversubscribed” this year.</p>

<p>Villanova had 1651(increase from 1643 previous year) freshman enroll vs goal class size of 1625, including 389 (increase from 82 previous year) off the waitlist.</p>

<p>Triples are becoming the norm for freshman that deposit late or enroll off the waitlist, but I do agree that freshman housing assignment is by deposit and if you want doubled housing on south and know you will enroll , deposit ASAP!</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.villanova.edu/enroll/assets/documents/CDS2010_2011.pdf[/url]”>http://www.villanova.edu/enroll/assets/documents/CDS2010_2011.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.villanova.edu/enroll/assets/documents/CDS2009_2010.pdf[/url]”>http://www.villanova.edu/enroll/assets/documents/CDS2009_2010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I think the huge increase in waitlist admits is due the explosion in the number of applications by students and the difficulty in admissions to assess enrollment yield. Even with the large increase in waitlist , the academic data of enrolled students has continued to increase year over year.</p>

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<p>Not trying to be disagreeable ;),BUT the Dean of students said exactly what i mentioned at freshmen orientation …He apologized for the many triples,saying more students accepted then anticipated…But nevertheless,if you get accepted and intend to go to "Nova, make your deposit asap…good luck to all, as it is a great institution…</p>

<p>though perhaps the apology for too many accepted students was a cover for the triples?? hmm…</p>

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<p>qdogpa:"
though perhaps the apology for too many accepted students was a cover for the triples?? hmm…"</p>

<p>Could be , the question to ask the dean regarding triples is , what is the target enrollment for freshman , and why take 389 off the waitlist if this leads to oversubscribed?</p>

<p>qdogpa, no quarrel with you , as I said before you are spot on in your contributions to to this forum! Merry Christmas from your fellow Nova parent!!</p>

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<p>My D was just deferred EA. It is still her first choice. Based on all of her research and ■■■■■■■■ of the more reputable internet sites, it was about what she expected, particularly in light of the increase in EA apps this year. For those veteran Nova “in the know” folks…I have a few questions:</p>

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<li><p>Many previous posters at this and other sites have claimed that their S or D was deferred EA, only to be accepted RD. With the large increase in EA apps, how might this be impact the composition of the Class of 2015? Do the deferrals just go back into the regular pool…or might there be piles of EA deferrals (likely, possible, unlikely, wait list) based on the initial review of their apps that was done during the EA process? </p></li>
<li><p>Does anyone (even anecdotally) know the yield from EA acceptances from the past several classes (in A&S)? </p></li>
<li><p>Do the admission criteria change all that much between EA and RD (in proportion to the quality of the applicant pool?). My impression is that Nova makes like their BC and Georgetown in the EA process…but probably can’t sustain such standards in the RD pool if they want to meet the yield profile they’ve targeted…but perhaps this is the year that things get turned upside down?..</p></li>
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<p>I’d appreciate any insight that anyone might have…thanks!</p>

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<p>I have friends who have had kids go to Villanova and my son’s best friend is there now. Based on the information I have heard Villanova is harder to be accepted to EA than it is for regular decision. I am not sure what their logic is in deferring so many qualified candidates in EA but they have a reputation for doing that. Many (if not most) of the kids that have the scores to be considered for early admission end up being admitted. I know several people who were deferred and then admitted in the regular pool. </p>

<p>Again, I am not sure of Villanova’s logic but their acceptance rate for EA is lower than for RD. If you or your children were deferred they still have a very good chance for admission. If it is really where you want to go, just be patient. </p>

<p>Good luck to all.</p>

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<p>Nickenzie- here is my take on your questions: (sorry if it is long winded)</p>

<p>1-Q* Many previous posters at this and other sites have claimed that their S or D was deferred EA, only to be accepted RD. With the large increase in EA apps, how might this be impact the composition of the Class of 2015? Do the deferrals just go back into the regular pool…or might there be piles of EA deferrals (likely, possible, unlikely, wait list) based on the initial review of their apps that was done during the EA process?</p>

<p>A- The large increase in EA apps is almost universal , mostly due to competition and Commonapp , the composition on class of 2015 will be largely unchanged from previous years , academic criteria of enrolled students is modestly higher trend over the last few years.The deferrals will go back to the RD pool , but I would guess these applications have been graded but will be reread. The other advantage EA defers will have over RD apps is EA apps show a higher level of demonstrated interest by applying early.My D , a soph , was a EA defer and RD admit.</p>

<p>2-Q-* Does anyone (even anecdotally) know the yield from EA acceptances from the past several classes (in A&S)?</p>

<p>A-I have never found data on EA deferred and RD results , but assuming that EA applicants typically are among the strongest of the applicant pool , that RD results of Deferred is going to be higher than the balance of the RD pool. </p>

<p>3-Q-* Do the admission criteria change all that much between EA and RD (in proportion to the quality of the applicant pool?). My impression is that Nova makes like their BC and Georgetown in the EA process…but probably can’t sustain such standards in the RD pool if they want to meet the yield profile they’ve targeted…but perhaps this is the year that things get turned upside down?..</p>

<p>A-Nova EA criteria is much tougher than RD , we see apps with 1350 sat deferred and will almost certainly be accepted rd , rd accepts will reach into the low 1200’s for compelling apps with other dynamic criteria. I believe that Nova EA admits is a tactic to get the attention of their very best applicants and get them to take a closer look to seriously consider Nova over other “more admissions competitive” like Georgetown , BC ,ND ,UVA,Vanderbilt etc. It has worked from some kids I met that were EA accepts and attended NOVA and enrolled over the previously cited schools. </p>

<p>The dilemma these schools face is trying to get accept level percentage low enough and admit yield high enough impress USNWR and to fill their class with the best academic and diverse(URM , geographic , athletic,full pay etc ) student body while dealing with the proliferation of applications per student in the current admissions cycle.
Take a look at BC & Nova the last 2-3 years.With increasing apps , their admit rate is higher , yield is lower and class size is modestly lower for BC and slightly higher for Nova with a large wait list enrollment.Yet their academic criteria continues to trend slightly higher.The old matrix for ADCOMS is useless.</p>

<p>My take is if you have SAT above 1250 and GPA above 3.90 with other moderately decent criteria you stand a good chance of admit.For those on the cusp , the deal breaker is going to be essays and letter of recommendation and other “holistic” components of the application.
Good luck (if you are still reading at this point!)</p>

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<p>Thanks Brave U. Yours was the kind of wonkish response that I covet…we are still (if slightly less) hopeful. D is slightly better than the bubble but as with most things in life, 90% depends on who else shows up. I know that there was quite a large wait list last year and about 400 students ended up sticking with and being plucked off of it…but our fear is that the uncertainty would add a lot of angst to a period (late spring senior year) that should be a fun time for my D. We shall see. First quarter grades were strong so hopefully mid-year report will make a stronger case.</p>

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<p>Nick:</p>

<p>First timer as a wonk for me , thanks (I think!).</p>

<p>Angst & anxiety are the downside of EA deferral,D1 couldn’t care less then, D2 is in the middle of this right now , keep the faith.</p>

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<p>I got deferred with a 3.28 and 1950 SATS (610M/660CR/680W). I was actually really excited about this news because looking at the other EA applicants’ stats, I was expecting a rejection letter.</p>

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<p>nabrazune:your 3.28 GPA will be your biggest obstacle in the RD pool, you are competing with applicants with mostly GPA above 3.75 (60% of enrollment). Your CR/M SAT is solid at 1270 but Nova does not consider the writing portion at this time.“The Admission Committee will review the highest critical reading and highest math scores from the SAT”</p>

<p>All Nova ea apps not offered admission are deferred, “Applicants not admitted under Early Action will be considered under the provision of Regular Decision and notified in late March”. Unlike BC which rejected 1200 EA apps this year , about 20% of its EA pool.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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@qdogpa Hi so I was just deferred EA and was wondering if you sent a deferral letter or anything else to Nova showing continued interest in the school to be accepted RD?

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@nspara this thread is from 6 years ago. qogpa is long gone. It is always beneficial to let your regional admissions counselor know of your continued interest --and if you would attend if admitted you should definitely tell the admissions officer, as yield is an important consideration, and higher yields lead to higher rankings.

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