<p>I would only like people who actually worked in the business field, and know about both these schools.</p>
<p>If you were recruting students, which school would you think is better to recruit from? And why?</p>
<p>Fordham is about equal to Baruch in reputation. Baruch,however, has a HUGE alumni assocation and contacts in business PLUS it is MUCH, MUCH less expensive to go to as an instate student. Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would go to Fordham for business over Baruch.</p>
<p>i agree with taxguy.
baruch is extremely affordable.</p>
<p>More people recruit from Baruch. CCNY and Baruch are very well respected public schools. They are flagship CUNY School's. I know many students from Baruch who have become quite successful very quickly after graduation. If you are eligible for CUNY honors not only is it affordable, it's free.</p>
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<p>And yet you listed your CCNY education as a reason you won't be able to get into a top school (namely, because you couldn't get a job from CCNY that business schools would look favorably at).</p>
<p>any other opinions?</p>
<p>VectorWega, I attended Baruch and had no difficulty geting any job I wanted or attending law school. All that was implied is that Fordham isn't more prestigious than Baruch; thus, why pay the extra money to attend Fordham. </p>
<p>Notice, NO ONE is saying or implying that Fordham is a bad school in any way.</p>
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<p>I work with 2 baruch alumn's... at a BB i-bank. The opportunity for those who want a good job after finishing Baruch is definitely there...I keep repeating this like a broken record...it's ultimately up to you what you do with your career...the school you graduate from means little.</p>
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<p>There is no need to be condescending. The fact of the matter is the OP asked which one of those schools would be better for recruiting purposes, not which one is better for a top MBA program. The fact of the matter is, they may be good schools but there is far less opportunity at Baruch to get a entry level job that is favorable by HBS, Sloan, Stern, Etc. than it is coming out of a substantially better school.</p>
<p>The difference in tuition between 4,000 at Baruch and 40,000 annually at an Ivy directly reflects on the job you get straight our of undergrad. It is an investment and out of the two schools listed above, Baruch is the better investment. But, the opportunity to attend a top school upon graduation is out of reach for most Baruch graduates. Chances are increased by attending a top undergrad program cause you will generally get a job which is more relevant to what a top MBA program seeks in perspective candidates. </p>
<p>I never said CCNY was not a good value. I just said it will be extremely difficult to get into a program with the prestige of say, Columbia Business School coming out of Baruch then it would be coming out MIT Sloan undergrad programs. This is due to the lack of prestigious jobs that are available to the students from CCNY. It is unnecessary to take my words out of context.</p>
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<p>The fact of the matter is, you still have no clue what it takes to get into a top MBA program. Keep doing your homework.</p>
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<p>Incorrect. I am well aware of admissions procedures, I turned down a few Ivy undergrads for a full ride to a honors program. I know exactly how competitive top programs can be. It is definitely possible to get into a top program regardless of where you where you went undergrad. The jobs you can get out of a top undergrad are just more prestige making the road to a good MBA program easier.</p>
<p>Top MBA programs:
Get good:
GPA
GMAT
work experience</p>
<p>a brand name undergrad helps
write good essays
get good recs
interview well (if applicable)</p>
<p>nothin' to it</p>
<p>bschooltalk.net</p>
<p>originally posted by sakky:</p>
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I don't have a 'link', but trust me when I tell you that this information is correct regarding the number of times that a particular school is represented amongst the HBS alumni ever since data has been collected. Note, the following is the list of those who graduated from the MBA program at HBS, and hence doesn't include any of the other programs at HBS (i.e. the doctoral programs, the exec-ed programs, etc.). Note also that some schools may be counted twice. For example, if a person attended multiple schools (i.e. a transfer), then both of those schools may be counted.</p>
<p>We should also note that schools differ greatly in population and that geographic preference plays a large role. Furthermore, we should note that these are the numbers for the people who graduated, which is clearly not the same as the number of people who were admitted. Some people who are admitted choose not to go. Of those that go, some don't graduate (usually because they drop out to pursue a business opprtunity).</p>
<p>Harvard University (3254)
Yale University (1498)
Princeton University (1307)
Stanford University (1204)
Mass. Inst. of Tech. (1002)
Penn., University of (886)
Dartmouth College (776)
Cornell University (751)
Brown University (737)
Calif, U of,Berkeley (548)
Mich, U of,Ann Arbor (468)
U.S. Naval Academy (452)
U.S. Military Academy (438)
Williams College (429)
Duke University (428)
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<p>I think it's safe to make the assumption that it is easier to get into a top MBA program such as Harvard when you attend a top undergrad program.</p>
<p>Uria702, There is an old saying among us accountants: Liers figure and figures lie.</p>
<p>Yes, top grad and professional schools have an overabundance of kids from ogther top undergrad schools. However, one very plausable reason is that these kids do well on standardized tests! Frankly, the SAT isn't that different from the GRE. Even the Gmats have a lot of similar questions to the SAT. Thus, it would make sense that a population of kids that do exceedingly well on an SAT will do well on post college standardized testing. Since these top undergraduate programs contain kids who mostly did exceedingly well on the SAT, it is logicial to assume they did well, as a whole, on post college tests.</p>
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<p>That would depend entirely on who you are and your credentials. For some, it is quite easy regardless.</p>
<p>As a former bschool professor from Columbia I believe Baruch. At least to academics recruiting for our PhD program and MBA program. In reality, not a big difference, given the other criteria.</p>