<p>The situation: An incoming freshman has taken 4+ years of Spanish (starting in Middle School), but did not take Spanish as a senior. He did not take the SAT II Subject Test in Spanish (as he was not taking the subject this year and had plenty of other SAT IIs). He is unable to take the SAT II this June, and it does not appear to be offered again this summer.</p>
<p>Questions: When does Dartmouth offer placement tests in Spanish? (It would be ludicrous to start in Spanish I). Are these held during freshmen orientation week? Are they the same as the SAT subject tests? Do they include "listening?" Thanks.</p>
<p>What about international students who are already fluent in both their native languages and English?
I'm worried about the placement test too. My native is Chinese, and second language English. I'm currently learning elementary German, but fear I wouldn't get a satisfactory score in the placement test for German.</p>
<p>Foreign language courses numbered 1,2, & 3 are a requirement for your degree. You can be exempted on the basis of your SAT scores or by qualifying exam taken during orientation. You must complete the requirements before the end of your 7th term by either studying a language on campus or participating in a Dartmouth Language study Abroad program. Where no department or program exists to determine a student's fluency in language the Assosciate Dean of Faculty for the Humanities shall make the necessary arrangements to determine fluency. </p>
<p>Hi Iceman,</p>
<p>You can be placed in spanish based on your high school grades in the course. In addition, language placement test are given during orientation. I beleive that you get your results the same day. If you are placed in Spanish 2, you have the following options:</p>
<p>You can take spanish 2 on campus (must get atleast a B-) and take a LSA (Barcelona in F, W and Sring terms or Puebla in W, S terms) sophmore year which will cover Spanish 3 5 & 6.</p>
<p>I beleive your options are as follows: You can take the placement test in Chinese to get an exemption. You can also take a placement test in German. Concerning german, the worse case scenario is that you would be placed in german 1 or any other language you are interested in studying.</p>
<p>Do you know the nature of the Spanish placement exam? Is it like the SAT II (is it an SAT II test, or a test unique to Dartmouth)? And most importantly, is there a "listening" test, or is it purely written Spanish? Thanks.</p>
<p>Daughter did not take the placement exam for spanish so I am really not sure but I believe tha it is just a written exam because none of the placement test are long. In addition, when you take a language, you take drill so don't worry they will assess you listening and speaking skills.</p>
<p>Iceman1 - If you've taken 3 or more years of Spanish in HS, they'll place you in Spanish 2. You can take the placement exam if you don't want to take any more language classes, but I believe your language skills have to be pretty high in order to do that. If you don't mind Spanish, I'd say take Spanish 2 (with Guzman-Bueno, if you can - she's an amazing prof) and if you want to travel, go on the LSA (I highly recommend the Barcelona LSA - it's an amazing experience). </p>
<p>Williams - Even if you didn't take the SAT II in Chinese, you can just take the placement test during orientation, which will most likely be a breeze for you. I took it and I remember it was fairly easy. There is a written and spoken part, but I'm sure you'll do fine. Once you place out of Chinese, you can then choose whether or not you want to take more German classes. </p>
<p>how well do you have to score on the sat2 to be exempted from a language...also, can you request to start at level 1 without taking the placement test?</p>
<p>I'm not sure what the score is - it changes from year to year, but it was pretty high when I started at Dartmouth. They also take AP credits - but only scores of 5. </p>
<p>You can definitely start at level 1 - just don't take the placement test.</p>
<p>SANGEL, yes you can... although I'd say you should study abroad its an awesome experience... also the SAT 2 score for exemption hovers around 730. (this was the score needed for me to place out of french)</p>
<p>yeah, i saw on the dmouth page that someone on this site posted that a 4 or higher in ap spanish language gets u out of the foreign language requirement, and a 5 in spanish lit (maybe a 4 too), gives u a spanish something credit. now this is just for spanish, which is what i paid attention to.</p>
<p>Students who have had one or two years of high school Spanish register for Spanish 1; </p>
<p>Students who have had three or more years of high school Spanish register for Spanish 2. </p>
<p>Students with SAT II or AP scores</p>
<p>SAT II scores:</p>
<p>0-510: Spanish 1</p>
<p>520-590: Spanish 2</p>
<p>600-680: Spanish 3</p>
<p>The First Year, Clas of 2008 Booklet states:</p>
<p>Students who score 690 or higher on either the SAT II reading or Reading with Listening test will have satisfied Dartmouth's foreign language requirement and will be eligible to take the Dartmuth Advanced Reading Test (DART). Those who pass DART will receive 1 unspecified credit in spanish and may enroll in Spanish 9,30,31,or 32</p>
<p>Students who do not have an SATII Spanish test score unpon entering Dartmouth but who have either 3 or more years of secondary school preparation willb e placed into spanish 2. A spanish placement test will be offered for thse students whos goal is to place into Spanish 3 or exempt from the language requirement. Test is held during orientation week.</p>
<p>Successful completion of CEEB- AP syllabus may qualify an entering student for one unspecified credit in spanish, and consequently for placement i higher courses. Students who score 5 on AP spanish Literature receive one unspecified credit in spanish. Students who score 4 on either AP exams will hve satisfied the language requirement in spanish and are eligible to that the DART in order to qualify for one unspecified credit in spanish</p>
<p>Entering first year students who plan to continue in French should take the SATII French Subject test during h.s. This score willbe used for placement as follows:</p>
<p>0-530 and has completed 2 years or less of French in H.S. French 1</p>
<p>540-600 or 3 years of french in H.S. French 2</p>
<p>610-680 French 3</p>
<p>Students with scores of 690 or more will have satisfied the language requirement</p>
<p>Note:</p>
<p>A student who is placed in French 2 and plans to apply for a Language Study Abroad program must take French 2 within 6 months of departure
The LSA program consists of French 3,5, and 6 therefore a student who completes French 3 on campus cannot attend an LSA program, but may attend the advanced Language Study Abroad (LSA+)</p>
<p>Successful completion of CEEB- AP syllabus may exempt entering students from the language requirement and/or for credit for French 10, the prerequisite to all upper level french courses. Students who score 4 or 5 on either AP exams (Language or Literature)will have satisfied the language requirement in French. Students with an AP score of 5 for French Lit will automatically receive credit for French 10. Student s who score a 4 in literature of a 4 or 5 in language are eligible to take the DART. If they pass the DART, they will recieve credit for French 10 and may elect an upper level french course.</p>
<p>Students who have not taken the AP exam (or who have scored a 3 or below)may satisfy the language requirementby obtaining a 690 on the SAT II French Subject test. These studnets are then eligible to take the DART. THose who pass the DART will receive credit for French 10 and may elect upper-level French Courses.</p>
<p>*Exemption from French 8 *</p>
<p>An entering studnet who has been exemped from the language requirement in French and, in addition has studied in a french speaking country for more than 3 months are eligible to take the APE during orientation. A score of 90% or more will earn exemption (no credit) for French 8. French 8 and French 10 constitute the prerequisites for participation in the French Foreign Study Program</p>
<p>IB</p>
<p>Studnets who have completed the IB program in french are invited to take the APE and DART exams. PLease check with the department of French & Italian for scheduling these exams.</p>
<p>For Latin, the College Language requirement can be satisfied only on the basis of the SAT II Latin test or the departmental language test administered during orientation. Studdents who score 680 on the SAT II latin test should enter Latin 3. </p>
<p>580-680 latin 2</p>
<p>below 580 latin 1</p>
<p>Studnets whose test results may not fairly reflect their knowledge and experience of Latin taken in H.S> should consult the Classics Dept. Chair for advice and permission to thake the most appropriate latin course at Datmouth.</p>
<p>Course credit is not granted for traning and corresponding that is given in Latin 1 or 3 at Dartmouth (as true of all foreign languages) Appropriatte course credit may be awarded upon formal request to those studnets who have achieved a 5 on either of the Latin AP exams and a score of 680 on te SATII, or performance at the equivalent level on the departmental Latin exam aministered during orientation. Students seeking credit for intermediate Latin courses ared advised to see the Classic Dept Chair.</p>