<p>Does anyone know any info about foreign medical schools? Like after the 12th grade do you go to college or just straight to medical school. Can someone tell me the procedure in the UK and places like that.</p>
<p>Studying medicine in the UK as an American citizen is difficult. I was considering it until I recently toured UK universities and asked your same question.</p>
<p>Here are the problems:</p>
<p>1) UK universities have a government cap on the number of overseas students they can admit to medical degrees each year. Oxford takes a maximum of 7 foreign students. Obviously your chances are low.</p>
<p>2) If you are an American citizen and resident, the price is outrageous. I've lived in the EU for over three years, so I am eligible for 'home student' tuition, but I'm assuming you haven't. </p>
<p>3) You need to take the BMAT and UKCAT tests. Just one more thing to prepare for, more money, more hassle. One is like a scientific knowledge test, the other is like the SAT.</p>
<p>4) A foreign medical degree is NOT transferrable to the US. Being certified a UK medical doctor does not mean that you are a US medical doctor. You have to redo quite a bit of your training to work in the US.</p>
<p>However, do note that you can get by the last problem. Just don't sign up for the university's medical program, and study there for 3 years as opposed to the normal 6. It is conventional in the UK to enter university knowing that you will become a doctor. Thus the medical program is only 6 years with little focus on non-medical related subjects. They don't really have such thing as a 'medical school' there.</p>
<p>However, you could technically tranfer to an American medical school at the end of your third year, after having earned the British equivelant to a Bachelor's degree. Just major in a different field from medicine, and take the MCATS.</p>
<p>Nonethess you will need to study at a prestigous UK school, maintain good grades, and prepare yourself for the MCATs. Remember that the UK isn't neccessarily teaching to the MCATs. I'm studying a British cirriculum at the moment, and I'm finding that, while it is an extremely advanced program, it doesn't neccessarily prepare me for the SAT Subject Tests.</p>
<p>So in summary, it would be great if you could study in the UK. I would love to go there, and to be honest, I would if I weren't so set on medicine. It's a fun country, great people, and living in Europe is a great experience. UK schools are excellent, but unless you want to spend the rest of your life there, be careful.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope this helped!</p>
<p>ACTUALLY</p>
<p>I'm also looking into medical school. There is a program where you go to college here in America for two years, and then go study in Bulgeria (it may be in other countries too. This one is a good med school though). You do 4 years of med school in Bulgeria, take the same tests the students here have to take at the end of med school, and then do residensy here. Its much easier to get in, and tuition + room/board costs around 10,000 dollars, almost a fourth of med schools here in America. On top of that, it is much easier to get into and you don't have to take the MCATs.</p>
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<p>I was under the impression that very few medical schools allow transfers. Those that do (read Tufts' policy, for example) demand identical curricula (something that is very rare among US med schools, much less overseas ones) and "compelling personal circumstances", which I've always assumed to mean things like, "My mother got cancer and is receiving treatment in Boston."</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out, bluedevilmike. I worded that incorrectly. What I meant was that once you have a British 'bachelors', you can apply as a freshman to a US medical school. So basically you only did an undergrad major abroad. I guess reasons for that would be wanting foreign experience and wanting to get a Bachelor's in three years.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure you can study medicine in any country and then come back to America and practice. You do have to pass the American licensing exams though, the USMLE steps 1,2,3. The pass rate for students in American med schools is something like 99% maybe a little lower but almost perfect. For students coming from foreign med schools its a bit lower, since the education is not as good. Much more preparation is thus needed in order to pass these exams. But many individuals have become doctors in america after having gone to medical school in other countries.</p>
<p>Most people who do this type of thing as an American citizen do so in a type of direct medical program where the first two years of bookwork is done abroad while clinical rotations are done with an associated american hospital in side the country. Aside from these sorts of programs, I can't speak about the obstacles or structures involved in the undergraduate/medical school processes overseas, as that varies from country to country. Once you have completed schooling though, only passing the test and then obtaining admission to a residency program is necessary. It must be noted that obtaining a residency as a foreign medical school graduate can be much more difficult than for students who studied medicine here and your options with regards to specialties will likely be limited.</p>
<p>Passage rate on the first try for US 2nd years on Step I of USMLE's is 93%. First try passage for foreign medical grads are in the 65% range.</p>
<p>International Medical Grads (IMG's) are at a substantial disadvantage when applying for residency and going through The Match. Here are the Match stats from 2006:</p>
<p>US Seniors matched for PGY-1: 93.7%
Osteopaths matched for PGY-1:67.9%
US Foreign grads matched for PGY-1: 50.4%
Non US Foreign grads matched for PGY-1: 48.9%</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://www.nrmp.org/2006advdata.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.nrmp.org/2006advdata.pdf</a></p>
<p>US seniors and Osteopaths that don't match initially are also likely at a big advantage for finding unfilled positions during "the scramble" (the time period after matches are announced but not revealed in which students can find residency spots somewhere to begin their training) simply b/c their schools and deans are going to be helping them find unfilled positions.</p>
<p>ITA with chriscap's post but I just wanted to add that it is possible to do a graduate medicine course in the UK, which is the same 6 yr course but intensive over 4 years. This is open to people who have BA or MA in science but it's even more competitive than undergraduate medicine. There are lots of places which have this course now, including Oxford and Cambridge. Of course the same problem of having to take US exams to practice in the US still exists.</p>
<p>If you speak Spanish, UAG in Mexico is pretty foreign student friendly. Particularly for Americans... they offer classes in English for the first or two years, with slow integration into Spanish, plus classes in learning Spanish, and they have USMLE workshops. Also, the school is pretty well known here, in the medical field, and is supposed to have one of the highest number of MD graduates practicing in the U.S. Check it out: <a href="http://www.uag.mx/medicine/default.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.uag.mx/medicine/default.html</a></p>
<p>Does anyone know how long it is in the UK if you do a medical degree without a bachelors is it 5 or 6? I would really like to know. Also in the Caribbean.</p>
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Undergraduate medicine is 6 yrs at most places, 5 and a bit at Cambridge. Post-grad medicine is 4 years everywhere.</p>
<p>Does anyone know about medical degrees from India.</p>