Franklin and Marshall or Skidmore

Hello,

I have recently been admitted to both schools mentioned above and I am having a hard time making a final decisions, especially admisdst these times of uncertainty. As of now I am interested in pursuing Economics and Sociology, yet things change and it is hard to say for sure what exactly I want to be doing in 4 years. These schools were not my first choices, yet I still feel very privileged to have the offers on the table and have not taken it for granted. I would like to be in/or around NYC after graduation and possibly pursue something in banking (once again I am young and things can change drastically over time so this is just a projection). Both Skidmore and F&M are about the same distance from New York, yet I wanted a little bit of a change in terms of environment as I am semi-local to Skidmore. I am more on the intellectual and open-minded side of things if that helps. Although this is very trivial, I am always curious to know what kind of weight the names of each school carry. Growing up somewhat close to Skidmore, people aren’t always aware of it’s growing prestige so it’s hard to know what people from other areas think. Since F&M is a small liberal arts school most haven’t heard of it, yet I would still like some insight as to how other people feel about/see the school.

What I am looking for is any insight/experience with the schools that could help me make a final decision?

Let me know if you have any other questions for me!

So you’re a banker/intellectual? If you’re more of a banker I’d go with F&M. If you’re more of an intellectual I’d go with Skidmore.

Skidmore’s economics faculty appear to be comparatively more active in their field: https://ideas.repec.org/top/top.uslacecon.html.

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Skidmore has a business major …

In NYC currently Skidmore seems much more “hot” as a brand-name than does F&M although both are really good schools. Amtrak goes straight to NYC from Skidmore. Skidmore rings more “art” than business however. Not sure how easy it is to get from F&m to NYC. Both probably have alumni connections … Maybe ask the different schools what sort of alumni connections there are in business in NYC. The Career offices should have rough numbers.

@Dustyfeathers @merc81 Thanks for the responses! Skidmore would have probably been my immediate go-to if it hadn’t been local as I had mentioned. Yet I’m not sure how much of an impact that will have on my personal growth lol. The reason I liked Skidmore in the first place was it’s similarities to Vassar, yet a little less competitive. But looking at the stats now, Skidmore is quickly climbing in competitiveness. I am talking to some coaches and will ask specifically what their students are doing and if any are in NYC now.

Also, I should add Skidmore will be about 2K more a year, which isn’t terrible collectively, but is it that much of a “better school” to consider?

How do you feel about frats?

@RelicAndType I don’t see myself joining one but I don’t think they would be a bother to me.

Congratulations on having two great choices! You can’t go wrong.

Both have all the advantages of excellent small liberal arts colleges. You’ll be part of a close knit community with small classes where you’ll get to know your professors well.

Hopefully some current or former students or parents associated with the colleges will weigh in, but here are impressions from someone who visited both colleges with my kid during the college search. The very differences that might lead one student to pick F&M would lead another to pick Skidmore!

Here was my impression of each, from my reviews of each at the time (with my former discussion of personally relevant factors now removed):

  1. August 2017:

Franklin and Marshall:

We ate two meals there, so we got to know the dining hall! The food was good.

It was a very pretty, compact campus. Lancaster was a bustling town, with a minor-league baseball stadium, a surrounding community that includes some Amish people, and lots of stores and restaurants.

During freshman year, you live with people with whom you are taking a course. That is a big plus for making friends right away.

We spoke with four students working in admissions, three of whom were part of fraternities or sororities, which seem really, really big here— which was a considerable minus (in our opinion).

It was a pre-orientation week, so in the dining hall, we saw international students, the football team, and also the girls’ soccer team, which might have been comprised entirely of clones with blond ponytails.

There was a dog park adjacent to the campus, so that was exciting!

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  1. August 2017:

Skidmore: This was the most unexpected “hit” of our college tours. Loved it!

We had a really bubbly tour guide who was extremely enthusiastic about her classes and experiences.

The surrounding town was charming, with a block of mansions right next to the campus, and a wonderful, active town in Saratoga Springs. The campus was very pretty with lawns and trees and the “North Woods” (a forest on campus). The buildings are modern, so not your classic college look, but they were attractive buildings with a nice, unified look.

The dorm experience may begin with a double or even a triple, but then often a single for each of the other years, and the dorm rooms are nice-looking with window seats. Upperclassmen can live in on-campus apartments. The male-female ratio skews female.

Skidmore is great for studying the arts but strong across the board.

No discussion about Skidmore could be complete without mentioning the annual Beatlemore Skidmania, during which students and faculty perform their interpretations of Beatles songs!

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Personally, I preferred Skidmore, because of the frat factor at F&M and the fun quirkiness of Skidmore. But I can see why someone would pick the other, too.

I am sure there are both “cool” people and “quirky” people at both colleges, and most people will find their social fit at either. But if you are at all socially awkward or shy or quirky, Skidmore might be a slightly better fit.

In terms of academics and reputations, I think you will be happy with either.

At a $2000 difference, you might be able to get Skidmore to match F&M if you prefer it. It’s worth a try, anyway.

Best of luck with your choice. Both are great!

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@TheGreyKing Thanks for the thoughtful response, I truly appreciate it!

If similarity to Vassar remains a preference, then Skidmore should suit you quite well.

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Congratulations on two great options!

My youngest son will be attending Skidmore this Fall. He particularly liked the quirky liberal arts vibe and really liked Saratoga Springs. He plans to study business. He’s visited a lot of campuses over the years with his brothers who attend Colgate & Vassar but he found his niche at Skidmore. I agree with @merc81 that Skidmore is more similar to Vassar than F&M. The natural space on campus is beautiful. I found the buildings nondescript but well placed and spaced. My son really liked the campus.

I just thought I’d update this thread as it may be used for insight on future decisions for students. I committed to Skidmore!

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A year later, but congratulations!