FRAUD in sending scores?!!!

<p>I was wondering, one of my classmates is applying to Yale SCEA and took the SAT 3 times. Yale says that they need all your scores, but he only sent his best one. He says that the admin will never find out. Is this true?</p>

<p>they’ll probably find out
they aren’t dumb</p>

<p>but how? it’s through collegeboard, and u can choose your scores. </p>

<p>this is really unfair for ppl who follow the rules</p>

<p>wouldn’t it be kind of obvious that he didn’t send all the scores if he only has one SAT test score listed? Statistically speaking, most people do take the test more than once unless they already have a great score early on, which doesn’t happen often.</p>

<p>actually lots of ppl get a good score first time. But technically they will not bother to find out, right? since it is through collegeboard, and collegeboard makes you choose your scores you pay for… how will they find out your score history?</p>

<p>What if collegeboard lists SCORECHOICE on the thing they’re sending to Yale…? You don’t know how they’re sending it…</p>

<p>If we took the Nov SAT, when should we send the score to Yale? I would feel better if I saw it first then sent it, which would be Nov 20ish, since as long as they receive it, it isn’t against the rules, right? They already have a set of my required exam scores that I sent in Sept so they can start reviewing my app…</p>

<p>Does collegeboard do that? I hope so or else this is soo screwed up. u can take the sat ten times and just send one score</p>

<p>tristan, you will be fine for november scores</p>

<p>Actually, Selectum, I don’t think Yale’ll know that your friend used score choice.</p>

<p>[Will</a> colleges know if I use SAT Score Choice??](<a href=“Examiner is back - Examiner.com”>Examiner is back - Examiner.com)</p>

<p>OP: CB had talked last spring about implementing a flagging system that would let no-Score Choice colleges know when a candidate did not request that all scores be sent. (FERPA prohibits CB from actually sending scores without the student’s permission.) Apparently, the flagging system didn’t materialize. So students are on the honor system. You may want to remind your friend that by signing the Common App, he certified that all information submitted, including supporting materials, was honestly presented. The Common App also states that admission may be revoked if a student falsifies information.</p>

<p>@tristan</p>

<p>Um, I would just send it in using as one of the free score reports because, after all, you’ll have to send it in later anyway, and if you do do well, then it can actually arrive on time and work to your advantage. But you can definitely do it either way.</p>

<p>I know I only took ACTs once and No SATs…so it’s possible that students only test once. But its def not fair to not send all your scores</p>

<p>If they find out, can they take away their offer?</p>

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<p>Yes. And if they find out, I’m sure that’s exactly what they’ll do. Yale has plenty of excellent applicants. They certainly don’t need students who are willing to lie on their applications.</p>

<p>Selectum - I know this won’t be easy, but let it go. Focus on what makes you a great candidate, not on someone else’s flaws. I have worked with young adults for many years and it is funny how these things have a way of coming back to hurt the person who tries to get away with something. If the person is willing to try to game the system, there is a good chance that adults will be aware of that trait. I knew someone last year who tried to game the system in another fashion, and I also know that they received letters of recommendation that were “light.” I think the expression is damned by faint praise. </p>

<p>Focus on you. Do what you do well and put together an honest application that highlights your strengths.</p>

<p>ya, man. this whole thing is just so outta control its making everyone a control freak. </p>

<p>worknprogress: your probably right. thx for setting me straight. </p>

<p>whatever, what happens will happen. no one can determine anything</p>

<p>This is very troubling. I agree with worknprogress that you should just focus on you, though. Otherwise you won’t be able to stand it.</p>

<p>And quietly hope that karma somehow affects this cheater. :]</p>

<p>The Score Choice process is new. There will be MANY loopholes found by “industrious” (?) applicants (read: “lying”).</p>

<p>Unfortunately I’m guessing odds are he will NOT get caught. And, if he does, what difference does it make to him? There is no real punishment, he just doesn’t get in (or…maybe he does…I’m willing to bet they barely care…if he’s a highly qualified candidate…all he has to do is claim ignorance - "Oh, gosh, I didn’t realize…I was filling out a lot of applications at got confused). And he’s willing to take that chance, in order to improve his odds of admission. </p>

<p>I would NEVER do that, and NEVER allow my child to do it…but I also don’t really blame him. Stakes are high and odds are slim. The sad thing is…these people DO get ahead. It’s just a fact. Lying helped a LOT of people get where they are today. </p>

<p>That said…one thing that CAN happen is this:</p>

<p>I just recently found out my D’s school put ALL standardized test scores (that are reported to the scool) in the child’s transcript and send those in along with the transcript. They failed to revamp the program in time to coincide with Score Choice. So, at her school…there effectively IS no score choice. It’s frustrating because we’d like to use it where it is allowed, but…mox nix. Thing is, this is in no school handbooks or manuals, their website, etc. No counselor told my child. I found out through happenstance. So maybe this kid WILL get caught, who knows? </p>

<p>It is SO hard, but you just can’t spend your energies on him. I wish everyone could just keep it real…they’re you’re scores…own up to them. I know it sounds naive but…let them see the real you. I know many would rather be admitted due to dishonesty than be rejected by being honest. But I don’t count myself among those people. I toss and turn at night about little things. I’d NEVER sleep if I joined the rank of dishonest Ivy applicants. And I’m sure it’s a BIG group. </p>

<p>I hope both he and you get whatever results you DESERVE.</p>

<p>^I got all my scores wiped from my transcript to allow me to just send in my ACT score to Yale (and mix-and-match wherever score choice is permissible). Good thing I knew that they put all scores on the transcript! I hope something like this does happen to the kid.</p>