Free Speech at Carolina? Round Two Tonight

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<p>Illegal=illegal. There is a right way and a wrong way to go about things. Typically, the legal way is the right way and the illegal way is the wrong way. If you want to argue otherwise, that’s your call.</p>

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<p>If SDS had its say, America would have no borders and we would all be communist. Your point?</p>

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<p>The racist charge is overused and uncalled for. YWC’s speaker last week, Virgil Goode, even said during the event that he wouldn’t mind seeing a Harvard or a Yale that was only 15% white, if it meant that the most qualified applicants were getting in. “Racist” is just a buzzword that people use against the group because they don’t know much about it. It is certainly a radical organization, but it isn’t racist (at least, not yet).</p>

<p>I also said that they didn’t like legal immigration, which is true.</p>

<p>My point is that there is a different between political ideology and racism.</p>

<p>They don’t mind legal immigration (Tom Tancredo’s wife is actually an immigrant)…they just support assimilation once you decide to immigrate to this country.</p>

<p>Just to provide a quick update-</p>

<p>A fringe group of about 12 loonies has filed a formal complaint against UNC’s police department. Among the issues that they brought up: pepper spray made their eyes burn (well duh), being arrested was humiliating (really?), and the officers should have treated the 3,000 people that raved in the library a couple of weeks later the same way (fat chance).</p>

<p>Their complaint says that the six people arrested at Virgil Goode’s speech have been banned from campus for two years, which I believe is a good step. I doubt this complaint will go anywhere as most people recognize that these protesters are nuts, but we’ll see how it goes.</p>

<p>I’m not a student at UNC, but I probably will be next year. When I first heard about the kids terrorizing the campus a couple of weeks ago when Torredo spoke, I had a laugh (along with the rest of the state), then became a little worried about sitting in classes with the same old annoyingly-activist kids who think they’re accomplishing something by making a ruckus. Although I’m a liberal myself and I severely disagree with the ideology that Mr. Torredo and Mr. Goode arguably share, they DO have a right to speak, and the “dirty hippies”, as someone called them (which I think is wrong - don’t call people who falsely think they’re making a difference hippies, because the hippies DID actually accomplish something in the 60s; they led a social movement) hypocritically limited the speech of another viewpoint in their childish and hopelessly annoying protests. This is a major pet peeve of mine (hence my rant) - these people seem to protest only for the sake of standing for something, and in turn they waste their time and the time of others who share their viewpoint, but are trying to protest more constructively. If you disagree with these guys, listen to what they have to say, then argue with them about it. You look as idiotic shouting “racist” as someone who calls someone else a “dirty hippie”. Unfortunately, these irritating protesters with factually devoid convictions will never see that, by hypocritically protesting, they make those who might have been receptive to their argument tune out. </p>

<p>It’s also HIGH-larious that people on this board who yell (so their own proud ears can hear) “these guys are racist! I have a right to protest their speech!” think that france can’t be lumped in with the rest of the ‘white’ countries as ‘westernly-civilized’. FRANCE, for goodness sake. the cornerstone of the modern consolidated state (under louis xiv, the sun king), the beacon to all of Europe for ‘revolution in the name of democracy’ (a revolution which inspired classes all across Europe to erupt for decades to come), the homeland of Voltaire and Montesquieu… yeah, I guess the french can’t be considered members of western civilization. maybe instead of picking up bricks to throw, these kids should be picking up history books.</p>

<p>well said, skitter! i cringe when i hear ‘dirty hippies’ or even ‘hippy/hippie’ at all since i think it’s a misuse of the term to use it nowadays.</p>